Not replying to a specific message, since I'm replying to several issues 
simultaneously.

In section 2:
"No ROA can match an origin
      AS number of "NONE".  No Route can match a ROA whose origin AS
      number is zero."

I'm wondering if there should be a 2119 normative or two in there? This sounds 
like a validation instruction. (eg MUST/SHOULD declare prefixes covered by an 
origin AS number of none/zero invalid)

"If validation is not performed on a Route, the implementation SHOULD
   initialize the validation state of such a route to "Valid"."

No. Absolutely not. I agree with Randy that default for unchecked != valid. I 
can manage the handling of unknwon routes via route policy such that during 
incremental deployment I don't make a decision to prefer valid over unknown if 
that's what you're trying to prevent with this choice. Valid needs to have an 
explicit "permit" such that I know categorically that everything with the 
status of valid was in fact validated. We already have a status for the ones 
that we don't know, whether it's because they weren't validated or aren't 
participating/no covering ROA exists -- unknown.

I don't understand the suggestion of a 4th value NotChecked. What additional 
information is that providing? I saw Hannes's response regarding JunOS, but I 
think that's implementation-specific enough that it's not necessary to codify 
in the standard. What am I missing?

Lastly:
"We observe that a Route can be Matched or Covered by more than one
   ROA.  This procedure does not mandate an order in which ROAs must be
   visited; however, the "validation state" output is fully determined."
Is there guidance on this in one of the other documents? If so, please 
reference it here. Does longest-match still apply? This seems a fairly big 
question to simply leave open to implementation.
Please apply cluebrick liberally if I'm being thick.

Thanks
Wes George

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> Subject: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-04.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing
> Working Group of the IETF.
>
>       Title           : BGP Prefix Origin Validation
>       Author(s)       : Pradosh Mohapatra
>                           John Scudder
>                           David Ward
>                           Randy Bush
>                           Rob Austein
>       Filename        : draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-04.txt
>       Pages           : 11
>       Date            : 2012-03-12
>
>    To help reduce well-known threats against BGP including prefix mis-
>    announcing and monkey-in-the-middle attacks, one of the security
>    requirements is the ability to validate the origination AS of BGP
>    routes.  More specifically, one needs to validate that the AS number
>    claiming to originate an address prefix (as derived from the AS_PATH
>    attribute of the BGP route) is in fact authorized by the prefix
>    holder to do so.  This document describes a simple validation
>    mechanism to partially satisfy this requirement.
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