Dear Siesta users and developers,

                    As continuation of my last mail, I will like to inform
you that for my 532 C atoms' C-nanotube system, if I
use the solution method as "diagon", each CG step gets
over in 3 hours around but even 1 CG step is not over
yet in OrderN method even after 3 days!

                    I am sending here my input file for OrderN method. Can
I have from you any suggestion to improve the status?
Best regards,

                                                              mousumi.

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SystemName          Carbon in diamond Crystal # Descriptive name of the
system
SystemLabel         SCNT_13_10         # Short name for naming files

NumberOfAtoms           532            # Number of atoms
NumberOfSpecies         1            # Number of species

%block Chemical_Species_Label
  1    6    C
%endblock Chemical_Species_Label

PAO.BasisSize      SZ

# Lattice, coordinates, k-sampling

AtomicCoordinatesFormat ScaledCartesian # Format for coordinates
AtomicCoorFormatOut     Ang


LatticeConstant     1.00 Ang


%block LatticeVectors
 35.663844      0.000000      0.000000
-17.831922     30.885795      0.000000
 0.000000      0.000000     28.387130
%endblock LatticeVectors

#kgrid_cutoff        7. Ang
kgrid_cutoff        0.0 Ang

# DFT, Grid, SCF

XC.functional           LDA         # Exchange-correlation functional type
XC.authors              CA          # Particular parametrization of xc func
SpinPolarized           .false.     # Spin unpolarized calculation
MeshCutoff              200. Ry     # Equivalent planewave cutoff for the
grid
MaxSCFIterations        150         # Maximum number of SCF iterations per
step
DM.MixingWeight         0.3         # New DM amount for next SCF cycle
DM.Tolerance            1.d-4       # Tolerance in maximum difference
                                    # between input and output DM
DM.NumberPulay          3           # Number of SCF steps between pulay
mixing

# Eigenvalue problem: order-N or diagonalization


SolutionMethod          OrderN      # OrderN or Diagon
#ElectronicTemperature   5 K        # Temp. for Fermi smearing

# Molecular dynamics and relaxations

MD.TypeOfRun            CG          # Type of dynamics:
MD.NumCGsteps           40
MD.MaxForceTol          0.04 eV/Ang
# Output options

WriteCoorInitial
WriteCoorStep
WriteForces
WriteKpoints            .false.
WriteEigenvalues        .false.
WriteKbands             .false.
WriteBands              .false.
WriteMullikenPop        1            # Write Mulliken Population Analysis
WriteCoorXmol           .false.
WriteMDCoorXmol         .false.
WriteMDhistory          .false.
WriteCoorXmol           .false.

# Options for saving/reading information

DM.UseSaveDM                         # Use DM Continuation files
MD.UseSaveXV            .false.      # Use stored positions and velocities
MD.UseSaveCG            .false.      # Use stored positions and velocities
SaveRho                              # Write valence pseudocharge at the mesh
SaveDeltaRho                         # Write RHOscf-RHOatm at the mesh
SaveElectrostaticPotential .false.   # Write the total elect. pot. at the
mesh
SaveTotalPotential      .false.      # Write the total pot. at the mesh
WriteSiestaDim          .false.      # Write minimum dim to siesta.h and stop
WriteDenchar                         # Write information for DENCHAR

%block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
8.11181194 0.01005589 -7.10082368 1
8.10940797 0.19566867 -4.64467639 1
7.94435994 1.64312188 -4.74851539 1
7.78874590 2.26914550 -6.03185158 1
.................so on.............

7.78932972 -2.26913772 -8.16330126 1
8.06943776 -0.83389828 -8.27088579 1
8.10914050 -0.18841019 -9.55363730 1
%endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies

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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Diagon vs OrderN
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:    Thu, May 12, 2005 1:36 am
To:      SIESTA-L@LISTSERV.UAM.ES
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Dear All,


         I am a new SIESTA user. I am trying to relax C nanotube structure
with 532 atoms in unit cell. If the technique used is OrderN, the
particular place in the input file looks like

"
# Eigenvalue problem: order-N or diagonalization

SolutionMethod          OrderN      # OrderN or Diagon
ElectronicTemperature   5 K        # Temp. for Fermi smearing

# Molecular dynamics and relaxations

MD.TypeOfRun            CG          # Type of dynamics:
MD.NumCGsteps           40
MD.MaxForceTol          0.04 eV/Ang                                  "



           The output file, then, has written many times that CG tolerance
is reached but never said that it is starting next CG move as
it said for the 0th CG move as "Begin CG move =      0". I am
running the same job with the option diagon & there it is
printing after every CG move that
"Begin CG move =      2" etc etc...

            So, I am little bit confused about the output file structure
of the OrderN case. I ll copy some partsof the output file for
OrderN:

".......................

cgwf: iter = 1000      grad =          -0.000757      Eb(Ry) =   -1368.701892

cgwf: Maximum number of CG iterations reached

denmat: qtot (before DM normalization) =    2574.6250
ordern: qtot (after  DM normalization) =    2128.0000

siesta: iscf =    5

................................... in this way, last few lines are:


siesta: iscf =   79
Eharris(eV) =     -76851.8386  E_KS(eV) =     -76851.7380  dDmax =  0.0073


ordern: enum =   2128.0000
cgwf: iter =    1      grad =          -0.000290      Eb(Ry) =   -1401.943352

cgwf:  CG tolerance reached

denmat: qtot (before DM normalization) =    2582.4289
ordern: qtot (after  DM normalization) =    2128.0000

siesta: iscf =   80
Eharris(eV) =     -76851.8250  E_KS(eV) =     -76851.7798  dDmax =  0.0069

"

           Can you please help me to understand these differences? What is
"iscf step" here?

                           Best regards,  Mousumi


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