Dear Gabriele and Magnus,

thanks for your replies. I think I got it now, thanks to your advice.

Best regards,
Luk

2016-08-31 8:47 GMT+02:00 Magnus Paulsson <magnus.pauls...@lnu.se>:

> I wrote that part of Inelastica a few years ago. Without looking in the
> code I would say that the
> “bond currents” are in units of transmission, i.e., in the low bias limit
> the current is given by
> G0 I_ij V (Go: conductance quantum, I_ij: bond currents, and V: bias).
> If you want you could divide it into orbital currents by changing the code
> without too much trouble.
>
> As already said, adding them up over a plane separating the two leads
> should give the total transmission.
>
> There are similar quantities calculated for IETS signals although those
> are more complicated to explain
> since those depend on energy ...
>
> -Magnus
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Magnus Paulsson
> Associate Professor
> Dept. of Physics and Electrical Engineering
> Linnaeus University
> Phone: +46-480-446308
> Mobile: +46-70-6942987
>
> On 30 Aug 2016, at 09:19, Gabriele Penazzi <g.pena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Luk,
>
> I jump in. You can define, instead of the bond currents, something like
> a bond transmission. Such quantity, integrated on a plane, will give you
> the total transmission (a good sanity check). Therefore it will not
> depend on Vext and will be unitless. Some refers to it as transmission
> pathways.
>
> I'm not familiar with Inelastica but from the formula this is what is
> calculated there. If you look in the supplementary material of the
> Nature Chemistry by G.Solomon you refer to in your first mail you can
> find something along those lines (see eq.11 in suppl.mat.).
>
> Anyway even though these object are very useful to get a physical
> insight, you should be a bit careful in giving a strict physical
> interpretation akin to current densities. As you see in the work from
> Todorov, these quantities are, differently from the total current,
> basis-dependent and therefore they are not uniquely defined.
>
> Best,
> Gabriele
>
>
> On 08/29/2016 08:09 PM, Luk Keh wrote:
>
> Dear Nick,
>
> thanks for your reply, that paper was very insightful. I still have some
> questions to get more understanding if you hopefully don't mind. So, in
> the EigenChannels.py subroutine, the bond current for atoms (ij) is
> calculated via 4 * pi * Im[H_ij * D_ji] where D is the DOS of the
> considered electrode which is obtained by the resp. spectral function.
> As I can see, this corresponds to eq. 100 or 101 (not sure here). In
> both cases I don't see the prefactor G0 (G0*e) and for eq. 101, the
> external bias Vext as prefactor misses too - which would yield zero bond
> currents for Vext = 0. What I'm trying to understand is which unit the
> bond currents have and why they exist for Vext = 0 which I tried out.
>
> Thanks alot and best regards,
> Luk
>
> 2016-08-29 16:42 GMT+02:00 Nick Papior <nickpap...@gmail.com
> <mailto:nickpap...@gmail.com <nickpap...@gmail.com>>>:
>
>    Sorry, it is the proxy used.
>
>    Here:
>    http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/0953-8984/14/11/314
>    <http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/0953-8984/14/11/314>
>
>    2016-08-29 16:30 GMT+02:00 Luk Keh <lukke...@gmail.com
>    <mailto:lukke...@gmail.com <lukke...@gmail.com>>>:
>
>        Dear Nick,
>
>        thanks for your instant reply. It seems that I need a login for
>        the link you provided. Can you provide another mirror or the
>        paper's title?
>
>        Thanks alot,
>        Luk
>
>        2016-08-29 16:18 GMT+02:00 Nick Papior <nickpap...@gmail.com
>        <mailto:nickpap...@gmail.com <nickpap...@gmail.com>>>:
>
>            This paper is excellent in explaining the details concerning
>            bond-currents:
>            http://dx.doi.org.globalproxy.cvt.dk/10.1088/
> 0953-8984/14/11/314
>            <http://dx.doi.org.globalproxy.cvt.dk/10.1088/
> 0953-8984/14/11/314>
>
>            PS. In the next release of siesta, transiesta/tbtrans also
>            enables the calculation of bond-currents.
>
>            2016-08-29 16:11 GMT+02:00 Luk Keh <lukke...@gmail.com
>            <mailto:lukke...@gmail.com <lukke...@gmail.com>>>:
>
>                Dear users and developers,
>
>                could somebody tell me which unit the 'bond currents' in
>                the .curr files produced by Inelastica have? Are those
>                in fact transmissions (since they don't vanish without
>                bias, i.e. [f_L - f_R] = 0 => I_mn = 0) or actual
>                currents (in Ampere)?
>                Also I would like to know how those currents are
>                calculated. I found some papers, e.g.
>                http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v2/
> n3/full/nchem.546.html
>                <http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v2/
> n3/full/nchem.546.html>
>                but I'm not sure about this.
>
>                Thanks and best regards,
>                Luk
>
>
>
>
>            --
>            Kind regards Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>    --
>    Kind regards Nick
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gabriele Penazzi
> mobile: +49 (0) 151 19650383
> skype: gabriele.penazzi
>
>
>

Responder a