Dear George, Having the country information is definitely an advantage. If the phone number is made optional, then the issue of phone field getting populated with +00000000 will still be there if the phone number is not given.
Pardon my ignorance but the current APNIC model - it is causing an issue exactly where? Regards -- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838 > On 01-Jun-2021, at 10:23 AM, George Odagi <god...@apnic.net> wrote: > > Dear Community Members, > > In light of the recent discussion about abuse role objects that were created > as a result of prop-125, we would like to share background information about > this implementation and consult with the community. > > APNIC acknowledges this is a known issue caused by a limitation in whois – > which requires the phone number and country attributes to be mandatory in > role objects. The abuse role objects are auto-generated from IRT objects, > where the phone number attribute is optional and the country attribute which > does not exist. This resulted in populating the phone number with > '+000000000' in the event no phone number was provided in the IRT object and > using the country 'ZZ' to indicate the country is unspecified in the IRT > object. > > The current whois versions in the RIPE NCC and AFRINIC do not include the > country attribute and the phone number attribute is treated as optional in > role objects - for example, see RIPE NCC's template below: > > Attribute Name Presence Repeat Indexed > role: mandatory single lookup key > address: mandatory multiple > phone: optional multiple > fax-no: optional multiple > e-mail: mandatory multiple lookup key > org: optional multiple inverse key > admin-c: optional multiple inverse key > tech-c: optional multiple inverse key > nic-hdl: mandatory single primary/lookup key > remarks: optional multiple > notify: optional multiple inverse key > abuse-mailbox: optional* multiple inverse key > mnt-by: mandatory multiple inverse key > created: generated single > last-modified: generated single > source: mandatory single > > A potential solution would be to upgrade APNIC's whois code to duplicate > these whois rules. Doing so would result in removing the country attribute > from APNIC's role objects altogether, in addition to making the phone number > attribute optional. This would ensure that information is accurately > reflected in the IRT and abuse role objects. > > We would like to hear your feedback or concerns about this proposed change. > We plan to present more details during APNIC 52. > > > Regards, > > _______________________________________________________ > George Odagi > Senior Internet Resource & Policy Analyst, APNIC > e: helpd...@apnic.net <mailto:helpd...@apnic.net> > p: +61 7 3858 3188 > f: +61 7 3858 3199 > www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> > _______________________________________________________ > Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/ <https://blog.apnic.net/>* > sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * > _______________________________________________ > sig-policy mailing list > sig-policy@lists.apnic.net <mailto:sig-policy@lists.apnic.net> > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > <https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy>
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