I remain opposed to this proposal. It is an unnecessary and pointless 
rearranging of deck chairs
with zero benefit to the community.

When we run out of /24s to give to new IXs, It is utterly harmless for IXs to 
become IPv6 only
fabrics. IPv4 NRLI can be exchanged over IPv6 peering sessions with zero issues.

Owen


> On Sep 8, 2023, at 16:06, Shaila Sharmin <shaila.sharmin....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear SIG members,
> 
> A new version of the proposal "prop-154: Resizing of IPv4 assignment for 
> the IXPs"
> has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
> 
> Information about earlier versions is available from:
> 
> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-154
> 
> You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal:
> 
>   - Do you support or oppose the proposal?
>   - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>   - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
> 
> Please find the text of the proposal below.
> 
> Regards,
> Bertrand, Shaila, and Anupam
> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> prop-154-v002: Resizing of IPv4 assignment for the IXPs
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Proposer: Simon Sohel Baroi (sba...@gmail.com <mailto:sba...@gmail.com>)
>        Aftab Siddiqui
> 
> 
> 1. Problem statement
> --------------------
> According to APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies ( Ref – APNIC-127, 
> Dated: 22 DEC, 2022 ), an Internet Exchange Point ( IXP ) is eligible to 
> receive a maximum /23 of IPv4 and /48 of IPv6 resources. Usually APNIC 
> assign one /24 to start a new IXP. But from analysis through PeeringDB, 
> we found most of places the resources have been underutilized and new 
> IXPs are wasting a large amount of valuable IPv4 space. On the other 
> side there are large IXP, who can’t grow due to lack of IP resources, 
> where /23 is not enough as the membership size is big. The size of the 
> minimum and maximum range of IP delegation to new or existing IXPs is 
> the main problem in the current policy.
> 
> Present IXP Status in APAC region from PeeringDB [5] :
> +-------------------+-------+------------+-------+---------------------------+
> |      IX Names     | Peers | ....Vs.... | Peers |          IX 
> Names         |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | BBIX Tokyo        |  299  |            |   17  | 
> BBIX-Thailand             |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | JPIX TOKYO        |  257  |            |   3   | 
> MekongIX                  |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | Equinix Tokyo     |  131  |            |   2   | Equinix 
> Mumbai            |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | JPNAP Tokyo       |  211  |            |   13  | npIX 
> JWL                  |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | HKIX              |  296  |            |   3   | Vanuatu Internet 
> Exchange |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | Equinix Hong Kong |  216  |            |   4   | 
> MyNAP                     |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | Equinix Singapore |  422  |            |   25  | DE-CIX Kuala 
> Lumpur       |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | IIX-Jakarta       |  449  |            |   13  | 
> IIX-Lampung               |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | DECIX-Mumbai      |  446  |            |   14  | Decix 
> Kolkata             |
> +-------------------+-------+ +-------+---------------------------+
> | MegaIX Sydney     |  232  |            |   46  | EdgeIX - 
> Melbourne        |
> +-------------------+-------+------------+-------+---------------------------+
> 
> 
> 2. Objective of policy change
> -----------------------------
> The objective of this proposal is to modify the default size of IPv4 
> assignments for IXPs from up to /23 to /26, which can receive a 
> replacement up to a maximum of a /22, provided the IXP returns the IPv4 
> address space previously assigned to them.
> 
> 3. Situation in other regions
> -----------------------------
> Similar policy has been adopted by RIPE NCC ( ripe-733 :  IPv4 Address 
> Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region ) [4]
> 
> 
> 4. Proposed policy solution
> ---------------------------
> 
> Current Policy text :
> 
> 6.2.4. IPv4 for Internet Exchange Points
> 
> Internet Exchange Points (IXP) are eligible to receive a delegation from 
> APNIC to be used exclusively to connect the IXP participant devices to 
> the Exchange Point.
> 
> Global routability of the delegation is left to the discretion of the 
> IXP and its participants.
> 
> New Policy text :
> 
> 6.2.4. IPv4 for Internet Exchange Points
> 
> By default, a /26 of IPv4 address block will be assigned to the new IXPs.
> 
> IXPs can seek an assignment of up to a /25 when they can justify having 
> more than 60 peers on the IXP fabric (peering LAN) in the next 12 months.
> 
> IXPs can seek an assignment of up to a /23 or current highest assignment 
> size when they can justify having more than 100 peers on the IXP fabric 
> (peering LAN) in the next 12 months.
> 
> An IXP which received an assignment less than /24 can request up to /23 
> IPv4, only if 60% of the original assignment has been used. The existing 
> assignment must be returned by the IXP within 3 months of the new 
> assignment.
> 
> Existing Large IXPs that already have used their maximum assignment of 
> /23 from current policy can request a contiguous block (if available) of 
> /22, only if they have already used 60% of existing assignment. The 
> existing assignment must be returned by the IXP within 3 months of the 
> new assignment.
> 
> Any existing IXP that wants to open new POPs can request for more IPv4 
> addresses (which will be allocated using the same principle as defined 
> above /26 and /25) as long as the total allocation doesn’t exceed /22.
> 
> Any resources assigned under this policy will not be announced in the 
> global routing table (mistakes are exempted) and must be used for IXP 
> peering only, in case otherwise the resources will be revoked by APNIC.
> 
> Global routability of the delegation outside this policy is left to the 
> discretion of the IXP and its participants.
> 
> Any resources assigned under this policy will be non-transferable.
> 
> Recommendation - APNIC should reserve up to /20 for IXPs under this policy
> 
> 
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
> -----------------------------
> Advantages:
> This proposal will ensure rapid expansion of IXPs in terms of membership 
> and POP numbers for this region and smoothen allocation of IPv4. 
> Reducing the default assignment size to /26 would stop wasting a large 
> amount of valuable IPv4 space. Increasing the allocation size will help 
> the IXPs add more members in fabric very easily.
> 
> Disadvantages:
> When the IXP operator jumps into a bigger block of IPv4 and returns the 
> existing one, then they might be required to renumber all routers 
> connected to that IXP fabric (peering LAN).
> 
> 6. Impact on APNIC
> ------------------
> The IXP who already became an APNIC member and has less IPv4 Resources 
> can also apply for maximum delegation for their expansion.
> 
> 
> 7. References
> -------------
> [1] Section 6.2.4. IPv4 for Internet Exchange Points.
> https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources#a_h_6_2_4
> 
> [2] Section 9.1.3. IPv6 for Internet Exchange Points.
> https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources#a_h_9_1_3
> 
> [3] Section 11.1.2. Conditions on source of the transfer 
> https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources#a_h_11_1
> 
> [4] IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC 
> Service Region https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-733
> 
> [5] PeeringDB :  https://www.peeringdb.com/
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