Mate - again, I agree with most of the below, I think you're just
angling at the wrong things.

I've been around the world (a lot) and spend a lot of time in the Valley.

Yes, there are people here with ideas - sure. And some of them are
good. Sadly, quite a few are crap and there just aren't enough ideas.
Ideas are cheap. They're universal. They're just a lot more plentiful
in the US, _because_ of the people and the environment.

And yes, there are startup people. There's a lot of people interested
in 'startups'. There's even a few who are _good_ at them. Hell, a
handful of us meet every Friday to have beers and shoot the shit about
startups - and that's fabulous. But it's 5-10 people who gather in a
city of _5 million_. Money sloshes towards smart people with good
ideas and the ability to execute. The classic idea + people +
opportunity = funding equation. If we get the LHS right, we'll get the
RHS. You can't _ask_ for more money, you have to _prove_ it's a good
place to invest.

Funding is definitely part of the equation, I just don't believe it's
the biggest issue here. That was my point.

m

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Phil Sim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> 1. I honestly don't think the good ideas are rising to the top. I
> think Australians entrepreneurs have difficulty with a) talking up
> their businesses and b) asking for money. Put together with the issue
> that getting funding is not a highly visible activity in Australia, it
> tends to force Aussie entrepreneurs to just tend bootstrap and in
> doing so they aren't going to grow fast enough to keep pace with other
> start-ups internationally or locally keep up with corporations.
> 2. I don't think its a culture of success that is the problem either.
> A lot of great innovation comes out of Australia, it just incubates
> inside of corporates. We don't have a 'Culture of funding'. I know a
> lot of people who have ideas, but wouldn't know how to get funding or
> believe they can get funding to get a venture off the ground. I got
> made redundant which aside from pissing me enough to swear never to
> work for the man again, also gave me enough money for 6 months to go
> out and try get something off the ground while still being able to pay
> my mortgage.
>
> I don't think we're going to start getting those successes until we
> start better plugging together entrepreneurs or would-be entrepreneurs
> with angels or would-be angels. And with the technology available to
> us today, it should be a no brainer to do that in a way that is more
> suited to the Australian way of doing business.
>
> I don't know if it can work like this, but next Sydney startup camp if
> it is at all possible for me to be there, I would be very keen to get
> stuck into a project that would achieve that.
>
>
>
> On Oct 13, 1:05 pm, "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I've long felt the biggest problem with the Australian start-up
>> > community is very low visibility of angel investors/VCs.
>>
>> Mate - just chiming in. As a part-time angel (who knows a lot of other
>> Aussie angels and even VCs) - I certainly don't think this is the
>> _biggest problem_. For me, I wouldn't even put it in the top 3 :)
>>
>> m
>>
>> PS Before someone asks, I'd say the top 3 are - 1) good quality ideas,
>> 2) experienced, committed people (both in the startups and in the
>> community) and 3) a culture of success.
> >
>



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