Thanks, good response.

You actually just made me realise *how* I could raise that money. Sure, I've
got some people in my life who are wealthy. But more interesting is why they
are wealthy: they are repeat entrepreneurs. People that I would brainstorm
business ideas with, because even though they've got wealth (not that it's
obvious), it's how their mind works.

Maybe that's the best solution: surround yourself with like minded people.
It seems like everything goes back to building a strong community that
supports each others. More alchohol is what we need, not VC's.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:40 PM, silky <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Elias Bizannes
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > What do people think about NAB's young entrepreneur program?
> > http://www.nab.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/nab/nab/home/about_us/4/3/2/2/
>
> To me it seems good. Might take a crack at it. Only problem is which
> business to point it at :D
>
>
> > You get a loan of up to 20k. The conditions seem fairly lax, with the
> > biggest stumbling block being your age (ie, 30 and under).
> > (hat tip to the switched on @Mister_Black who just notified me)
> >
> > I've got mixed thoughts.
> > - 20k is literally startup costs, so you need to be very careful. Need a
> lot
> > of focus on how you spend it.
>
> Sure, but true of any loan.
>
>
> > - 20k is perfect for a loan. It's not a massive amount, that will send
> you
> > broke if you fail.
>
> Indeed.
>
>
> > - 20k is something I could raise from family, friends and myself with
> easier
> > terms. I could sell my car and get that - why would I commit to a bank
> loan
> > of only that amount, if I was that serious in starting a business?
>
> I could raise >20k selling my house, but I'm not going to. I need
> somewhere to live. I need a way to travel, so I won't sell my car
> (probably). You shouldn't need to give up your life to start a
> business; and there is no way I could raise anywhere near 20k from
> family or friends. You must have rich ones :)
>
>
> > - Perhaps the real benefit is the terms on the loan, but I am not sure
> that
> > they are that much better than a business loan
>
> Seems better to me, in that they aren't asking for 2 years history.
>
>
> > At startup weekend, we had several team products in 24 hours with minimal
> > costs. Some of the products where bench marked against other efforts that
> > individuals had been involved in (like iPhone apps) and the weekend beat
> it
> > by months (and naturally cheaper if you measure opportunity cost).
> >
> > Thought I'd put it out there and get people's thoughts. I want to find
> > solutions to building entrepreneurialism in the Aussie Internet sector,
> and
> > questioning these things helps me understand what we really need for
> silicon
> > beach.
> >
> > --
> > Elias Bizannes
> > http://liako.biz
>
> --
> noon silky
> http://www.boxofgoodfeelings.com/
>
> >
>


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http://liako.biz

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