Thanks for that, I will pass it on.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: > @Tom Adams - Get them to have a chat to Steve Gilles - @stevelikesyou on > twitter. He's looking for some rails devs right now. > Jonathan > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Matthieu Stone <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> if you must offshore then you might want to look at: >> http://workingwithrails.com/ >> >> $AUD buys quite a bit now-a-days >> >> On 1 September 2010 13:03, Isaak <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Anyone has experience with a solid RoR offshore developer? >>> >>> Isaak >>> >>> >>> On Aug 12, 1:11 pm, "Peter Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > There are of course many very good onshore design & development teams >>> > also: >>> > Hydrix (:)), Grey, Procept, LX, Tiller, Planet, BCS, Invetech, Sage, >>> > Genesys, etc >>> > >>> > Peter >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [email protected] >>> > >>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JT >>> > Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 12:57 PM >>> > To: Silicon Beach Australia >>> > Subject: [SiliconBeach] Outsourced / Off-shored Development >>> > >>> > Hi All, >>> > >>> > In response to the recent posts about hiring developers, I'd just like >>> > to report on my experiences of working with outsourced development. >>> > >>> > We have been working with in-house and contract developers here in >>> > Sydney for 7 years (since starting the business in 2002), but when we >>> > were looking at building a new web-based product in 2009, we found >>> > that we could not find the skills we need within our budget (familiar >>> > story!) - so we started looking at the outsourced (off-shore) >>> > development path. >>> > >>> > We wrote a short (3-4pages) product summary, and started emailing and >>> > looking at firms ... and we had a huge range of responses. >>> > Ultimately, I think you get what you pay for, and you need to be clear >>> > as to what you want. >>> > >>> > We had a lot of offers of developers ... (hire two - here's their >>> > Skype ID and go to it) - this is the cheapest way, but you need to be >>> > able to do the project management day to day. If that's what you >>> > want, posting on e-lance or Guru or the other job boards will give you >>> > that. >>> > We had a couple of offers of developers + project management ... but >>> > with no clear methodology (they basically wanted us to tell them what >>> > to do at each and every stage) >>> > We had one company that asked intelligent questions, had a team >>> > approach, and could manage the whole R&D process with the various >>> > required resources: Architect, DBA, UI expert, Engineers, QA ... with >>> > them coming in and out of the project as we needed. This, as I said, >>> > was not the cheapest, but it was the best fit for the resources we had >>> > here. The firm is Global Logic (www.globallogic.com), and we are >>> > working with their Noida (New Delhi suburb) office. The team there is >>> > exceptional - the guys are all very experienced and have worked with >>> > the leaders in the industry (Microsoft, Orcale, SAP, etc AS WELL as >>> > having a well defined engagement model for new products and start- >>> > ups !) >>> > >>> > Getting the most out of your off-shore team may require a shift in >>> > your management and thinking. I went to Noida for 10 days to kick >>> > start the project, align methods, and build the relationship. We are >>> > following a very "lean" or "true" agile methodology, so we get working >>> > code to test every three weeks. And lastly, the guys have a great on- >>> > line project management tool so you can track activities daily if you >>> > like - not that we micro-manage, but it gives the project great >>> > transparency. >>> > >>> > I'm happy to consult (for free - up to a point) with anyone in SB who >>> > is seriously interested in outsourcing and looking to work with GL - I >>> > can assist you to get organised, understand the costs / benefits and >>> > how to get the most from your off-shoring efforts. >>> > >>> > Feel free to shoot me an email or call on0417 254 360. >>> > >>> > Jon >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon >>> > Beach >>> > Australia mailing list. >>> > >>> > Guidelines on discussion:http://tr.im/ujKF >>> > >>> > No lurkers! 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