First, thanks Rob for the answer.  Got the missing bit of the puzzle
-  "proxy"
Geoff - good idea also about the proxy - SSL / RLS plays better with
proxy.

puting the 2 together,

For other mobile developers  , here is the approach (which is working
for now, will see about other telcos' with testing)  : 1st try just
connecting, if fail, then try connect with SOCK.  In both cases have
also decided to use Secure Socket/ SSL / TLS (whatever its called
today) - why - on wireless (g3 or wifi) so it can't hurt.


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