Inexperienced entrepreneurs will always undervalue software engineering but experienced entrepreneurs generally will not(if they want to be successful).
I think it's the case that Sydney has more inexperienced entrepreneurs than the valley. Engineers can make the best CEO's. Most of the best tech company's in the world are lead by engineers. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Fai Wong <wongw...@gmail.com> wrote: > To bring a fair perspective on your partner's experience a AngelHack, even > countless times when I say I'm a .Net programmer who had developed in php > and now Ruby on Rails, most non-programmers will go clueless at .Net. So I > don't think what your partner experienced was a sexism issue. It is just as > hard for a male programmer to be seen to have better ideas or be more > innovative, we're usually born to be a slave coder. I think it is more of > an under-appreciation of what Internet startups revolves around.. coding. > While looking for co-founder for a few startups last year, I've approached > Sydney-siders on LinkedIn and they didn't take me seriously. San Fran biz > dev guys whom I approached on LinkedIn however liked my ideas, spared time > to Skype with me and would let me be the CEO if we became co-founders. WTF, > a coder as a CEO, how is that possible?? > > I have no solution but to advise your partner to come up with her own > ideas, test them and learn the business side. Someday, she gets to be the > CEO and there would be a co-founder who would be happy to be the COO as the > biz dev. side. Now that is a different world. > > > On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:48:48 PM UTC+8, Melody Ayres-Griffiths > wrote: >> >> <rant> >> AngelHack IMHO is _NOT_ a 'developer hackathon' -- it is a pitching >> competition. >> >> And my partner, a female developer who would be considered a 'rock-star' >> if she was male, was generally minimised and ignored by the attendees at >> the AngelHack we attended despite her 15 years of experience, and ability >> to develop in every language from COBOL forward. Which only re-enforces the >> point. >> >> The startup culture in Australia needs work. It's not as much a >> meritocracy as people like to paint it, and it's extremely patriarchical. >> </rant> >> >> On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:04:06 AM UTC+10, Barry Teoh wrote: >>> >>> They actually are programmers. >>> >>> The guys won a developer hackathon (AngelHack) back in May >>> >>> On Monday, September 9, 2013 7:13:22 PM UTC+10, Fai Wong wrote: >>>> >>>> In their defense, they're both not programmers. So unfair to label them >>>> as brogrammers! >>>> >>>> On Monday, September 9, 2013 3:06:12 PM UTC+8, Geoff Langdale wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great work: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-**life/smartphone-apps/** >>>>> techcrunch-forced-to-**apologise-over-sydney-duos-** >>>>> titstare-app-20130909-2tflb.**html<http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/smartphone-apps/techcrunch-forced-to-apologise-over-sydney-duos-titstare-app-20130909-2tflb.html> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.theatlanticwire.**com/technology/2013/09/** >>>>> titstare-tech-worlds-latest-**brogrammer-joke-techcrunch-** >>>>> disrupt/69171/<http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/09/titstare-tech-worlds-latest-brogrammer-joke-techcrunch-disrupt/69171/> >>>>> >>>>> It's got everything, right down to the pro forma "sorry if you are >>>>> offended" disingenuous apology on twitter. And apparently this is a "fun >>>>> Aussie hack", which insults fun, Aussies and hacks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach > Australia mailing list. Vist http://siliconbeachaustralia.org for more > > Forum rules > 1) No lurkers! It is expected that you introduce yourself. > 2) No jobs postings. 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