Yes, I apologise for making that inference. I also apologise for any
offence that I have caused you Clifford.




On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Clifford Heath <clifford.he...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 08/11/2013, at 3:29 PM, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So I've just offered some simple advice to a person that's asking for an
> opinion and then you name bash me with 'noisy idiot' and now an 'arsehole'?
> I'm sorry If I've done something wrong to offend you or cause you to hate
> me if I have I sincerely apologise.
>
> Michael,
>
> You were the one to misinterpret Tom's message (by your failure of logic),
> to fail to find evidence of him having run a startup (as if that was his
> fault!),
> and so to imply that he is a noisy idiot.
>
> I'm not categorising anyone, but making that inference was an a-hole thing
> to do.
>
> Good effort. Looks like you have some more "failure" badges to wear.
> I hear they're all the rage in California.
>
> Clifford Heath.
>
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Tom Allen <t...@jugglethis.net> wrote:
> > Thanks for the backup Chris and Mark.
> >
> > @Michael - Your research is lacking. I've tried and failed once on my
> own, and am now recuperating as an intrapreneur. I surely don't post enough
> to be considered "noisy", and it's a classification fallacy to bifurcate
> Silicon Beach into only idiots and experts. At the very least you've
> highlighted the existence of the "assholes" category too.
> >
> > @Corey - I apologise for derailing your thread. My advice was well meant.
> >
> >
> > On 8 November 2013 10:48, Mark Wotton <mwot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.quora.com/Triple-Point-Robotics
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > @Tom - I did some research and from the looks of it you've never run a
> company or attempted a startup.. Does that mean you're a "noisy idiot"?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Tom Allen <t...@jugglethis.net> wrote:
> > Corey,
> >
> > I just want to give you one piece of advice, even though I'm pretty sure
> you won't take it. I have been in *exactly* the same situation as you. That
> is; posting a ridiculously ambitious idea that 'solves' a huge 'problem' to
> this very mailing list, receiving a lot a "wow that's so awesome, I hope it
> works out!" and a lot of "you're a naive kid with a dream and some skills,
> but this idea doesn't solve a real problem and is too hard to get off the
> ground" too. Like you, I very much wanted my idea to succeed so I mostly
> ignored the negatives and focussed on the positives. I wanted desperately
> to class the negatives as petty detractors without any real vision, and the
> positives as awesome evangelists who just got it.
> >
> > Stop doing that.
> >
> > Use some critical judgement and research the people replying. In both my
> case and yours, the negative people are those who've been through this -
> Clifford, Geoff (both of them!), Bart, etc. The positive people (and please
> excuse me if I mischaracterise you, positive people) are generally those
> who haven't. You should weight more highly the opinions of people who have
> the experience to back them up. This list has a lot of noisy idiots. It
> also has a lot of regulars who chime in with precise advice but drop back
> out if a flame war starts up. You'll want to see this as "their arguments
> couldn't stand the heat", but again, you'll be wrong.
> >
> > Best of luck with your entrepreneurial career. I don't think this idea
> is the one.
> >
> > Tom Allen
> > t...@jugglethis.net
> > +61 412 335 425
> > http://www.drtomallen.com
> >
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