And on a lighter note, I've just signed off with my dog Lilly's name.
Calling back the dog and writing emails at the same time...Not the best
combo. :D

Thanks everyone for your input here. I have lots of things to think about
and I thank you all for your time.

Cheers

Elly

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM, StartUp Mosman <mosmanstar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Geoff M
>
> My comment was for Geoff Langdale. I apologise if you thought my comment
> was direct at you. It wasn't at all. I appreciate all the feedback on here.
> I do think Geoff L's feedback was coming from an insecure place, hence the
> barrage of negativity and "can't do" attitude. Some people just aren't
> mentor material.
>
> I agree with Simran's well articulated response: "but if it comes from a
> really negative place (egotistical, know-it-all, you have no idea, i'm the
> king of the world types) then it's not even considered - and the person
> giving it has wasted his time and the other person's time." Well said,
> Simran.
>
> Certainly, Geoff M, I valued your advice. I'm okay with frank and
> constructive advice. It's the destructive advice that has no place here.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lilly
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Geoff McQueen | AffinityLive <
> geoff.mcqu...@affinitylive.com> wrote:
>
>> Right, good to clarify that discouraging and uninspiring advice from
>> someone with a lot of experience in this sort of thing isn't welcome. In
>> that case, my advice at the top should have been:
>>
>>    - *Quit your job. *Now. Carpe Fucking Diem. If you get to the end of
>>    this email without jumping up and shouting "I'm out of here to pursue my
>>    startup dreams" you're just not cut out for it as you'll have proven your
>>    lack of energy, passion and risk taking isn't up to being an entrepreneur.
>>    - *Move to the Bay Area. *Now. This is where it is at and starting a
>>    company anywhere else is a waste of your life. Visualize the success you
>>    deserve, truly deserve, and then go out and snatch it. There's money
>>    falling from the sky here - small companies that do nothing (Yo) raise
>>    millions and pin boards for homemakers to daydream with are worth over 10
>>    billion dollars. The only real step to achieving your dreams is to get 
>> over
>>    to San Francisco and you're made. The investors will be impressed by your
>>    willingness to move across the world where you have no networks, no
>>    connections, no credibility, no product, no customers and no traction and
>>    were still brave enough to do it!! Crazy brave! That's what they're 
>> looking
>>    for - crazy brave thunder lizards!!!! Why shouldn't it be you?
>>    - *Dream big and don't let anyone tell you you're wrong. *You've
>>    thought about your idea a lot longer than them, so what would they know? 
>> We
>>    all know contrarians changed the world so going against the tide is a sure
>>    sign you're onto something big. The secret to success is to just keep
>>    going, no matter what, and you'll get there in the end - so taking outside
>>    advice and opinions on board is really just a sign for the weak who want 
>> an
>>    excuse to give up.
>>    - *Keep your idea secret and don't tell anyone - it is too valuable!*
>>    There are so many vultures out there with almost limitless technical 
>> talent
>>    resources and commercial experience and connections die for, but they're
>>    just unable to think of their own good ideas - and if you're not careful
>>    they'll steal yours. They hang out at the Grove and the Creamery just
>>    trying to overhead incredible original ideas and then steal them - the 
>> only
>>    way to make sure they can't is to never tell anyone anything.
>>
>> Seriously though, you've come onto a list and asked for help and advice
>> and experienced people have offered to help. They could have said "another
>> non-technical wantrepreneur trying with an idea for a tech business who
>> thinks their idea is awesome and wants to know the secret in getting from
>> underpants to profit; yet another deluded fool and wasting their life on
>> something that will never get anywhere". But they didn't. And now I'm
>> genuinely concerned for the next guy or girl who posts to this list and
>> asks for help and having experienced operators like Geoff Langdale just
>> ignore their request for advice because it isn't what someone wants to
>> hear, because while they probably won't read your post and disrespectful
>> response to someone answering a request for advice, the people who can help
>> on this list will all remember it and the community will be the worse for
>> it.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, simran <sim...@dn.gs> wrote:
>>
>>> Good point Mike, although if i may, i'll give a slightly different
>>> perspective (not referring to *any* of the earlier posts or with reference
>>> to any person - my comment is solely a response to your statement):
>>>
>>> Encouragement is perhaps equally valuable if not more. Hearing an
>>> opinion from anyone (and it is just an opinion albeit, sometimes based in
>>> more experience) can be really valuable, it's always worth considering and
>>> then discarding if need be... but if it comes from a really negative place
>>> (egotistical, know-it-all, you have no idea, i'm the king of the world
>>> types) then it's not even considered - and the person giving it has wasted
>>> his time and the other person's time.
>>>
>>> It's *always* worth trying to understand the context the question is
>>> coming from, and then responding in a way that can be understood.
>>>
>>> If after all, we *only cared* about "hard facts as we see them"
>>> (according to our experience) - then each schoolteacher would be yelling at
>>> every school kid all day... and i for one don't think that would produce
>>> good results :)
>>>
>>> On a separate note, i think we can learn a HUGE amount from dog
>>> trainers... you'll be amazed at how totally *positive* driven training
>>> is... it's got there as positivity bought forth much better results... i
>>> think we can learn a lot from that.
>>>
>>> Having said that, absolutely, one needs to give their opinion,
>>> factually, unmasked and as they see it, but it *is possible* to do it
>>> without yelling / screaming as that usually never gets the point across...
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mike Gardiner <m...@limerocket.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elly some of the most valuable advice will be things you dont want to
>>>> hear and at these early stages you dont need to be inspired and patted on
>>>> the back you need people telling you how it is.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,Mike.
>>>>
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