On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 08:34:53AM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:07 AM Tomasz Rola <rto...@ceti.pl> wrote:
> 
[...]
> > Question: who did more to save the planet during this last
> > thirty-something years? How much more could have been done if people
> > stuck to simple things instead of inventing geeky-freaky schemes?
> >
> 
> ​Surely this is an AND, not an OR?​ (i.e, these are not mutually
> exclusive courses of action)

Okay. They are not exclusive. But I can care a bit more about things
affecting humans' future than things affecting someone's earnings. Not
that I really care so much about humans (we will get what we deserve
and that is it, for me).

Back to my question. A small hint: nowhere on this Carbon Business
website have I seen what they do with captured CO2 (I admit, I did not
spent too long looking for it). I assume that if pilot installation
(let's call it Pilot) captured a ton per day, they promptly released
it straight away. Later on, the upgraded Pilot is said to make a
barrel of "fuel" (what kind of "fuel"? anybody knows? is it described
in Cell article?), but this too is going back to the air as soon as
the quality is good enough to feed an engine.

Looking at the picture of Pilot, I think the materials used might be
equivalent of 2 m^3 (cubic meters) of steel, which gives weight of
about 15 tons (15000kg). A world consumes 100 mln barrels a day, means
there is a need for 100 mln Pilots. This means 1500 mln tons of
steel. Global steel production was 1691 mln tons in 2017. A person
quoted in The Atlantic article hoped we could "stabilise climate
without changing our lifestyles", but this quick BOTEC tells me "I am
afraid this is not going to be so". Even if 100mln Pilots get built
(doubtful; how long will it take, anyway), and assuming Global Warming
is driven by CO2 increase, those units merely stop increase of one
greenhouse gas, at a huge costs, and then the change will go on
anyway.

Can a business be made of this? Sure. I do not blame them, I just
refuse to be enthusiastic.

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

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