Brian McInturff wrote: > > This is my take on making CS based on observation only. I > am relatively new to the process and do not know the physics > involved yet. I am sure I have some of it wrong, so let me > know where. > > I am making CS with a 24V AC transformer and a full bridge > rectifier with a big cap across it to produce DC at about > 34V. I have Sota .9999 silver wires. They run through a > block of wood and are about 3/4" apart but can be easily > bent to any distance since the ends dangle. > > I start with boiling hot distilled water. I bend the ends > of the wires to about 1/2" apart to get the process going a > bit faster. After 10 minutes, the cloud starts to form and > the positive wire begins to blacken and the negative gets > "furry". I remove the wires and clean them with a scotch > brite pad and straighten them out until they are parallel > 3/4" all the way down. Then, back in the drink for another > 10 minutes - this time, I use the wires to stir the CS after > 5 minutes. After 5 more minutes, I remove the wires and > clean with a pad again. Then, back in the drink for 5 > minutes, stirring every minute or so. Out to clean them and > in for another 5 minutes, again stirring every minute. This > is a total of 30 minutes the device runs (with approx 3 > minutes for cleaning for a total of 33 minutes per batch). > I make it in a tall thin glass, which holds approx 14oz. > This method yields from 20-25ppm based on my (saltwater > calibrated) TDS-1 meter. When it is done, it is slightly > yellow. > How do you calibrate the TDS-1 for CS with salt water? Thanks, Ron Brennen
Snip> > Straining the CS through coffee filters causes it to lose 1 > ppm. I then pour it into brown glass bottles. > > Isn't the blackness on the positive electrode as well as > what causes the silver to go yellow silver oxide? It seems > to me this is what it is. Even if I keep the electrodes > perfectly clean or only go for 5 minutes after the cloud > starts to form and make a clear solution, it will yellow a > bit when I filter it while letting the CS drop a few inches > into a cup. It will yellow less if it splashes (oxygenates) > less while filtering. A batch will always turn yellow on me > when I store a small amount in a 32oz brown glass container. > > If I store clear CS in an 8oz bottle, it will stay clear > longer but after it is opened a number of times, it too will > yellow. I assume it is reacting with oxygen to form silver > oxide. It seems to me that the yellower it is, the less > metallic tasting. I have made high PPM batches that I let > go dark yellow (1 hour run time) and clear batches (15 > minute total) and the low PPM clear tastes more metallic > than the high PPM yellow. > > If this is the case, and silver oxide is undesirable, I > suppose a way to control its formation would be to make > clear CS and put it in single serving bottles filled to the > top. This is workable since 1 or 2 oz bottles are widely > available (except they don't cost much less than the 8oz > glass bottles from Frontier, where I usually get them). I > also considered putting some ascorbic acid in the product > after it was made to inhibit oxidation, but I don't know if > silver ascorbate (or whatever it would form) is effective or > safe. > > I also think it may be better to use a high voltage system > to circumvent this. It seems to me that the shorter the time > it takes to make the CS, the less oxidation occurs. I don't > know how this affects particle size, though. > > Is particle size really too large when high voltages are > used? Has anyone looked into this personally (instead of > heard it from a CS generator manufacturer)? I don't know > why the particles would be much different size between > using, say, 9V or 9000V. Just seems to me that they > will "jump off the wire" faster. Anyone know for sure? > I am considering getting a 400V bridge rectifier and > connecting it to 120V, and not even put a cap across > it and see what a full rectified wave will do. > > Of course, a major consideration in high voltage systems > is safety. Anything much over 27V is getting into the > hazardous range, especially considering most of us > make the stuff using exposed bare wires. A few times > I've yanked the wires out of the solution and cleaned them > with a scotch brite only to realize on putting them back > in that the power was still on. Using high voltages, > I would have likely not forgotten much more than once. > > turf > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net>
