Typically, food distribution is controlled by whatever gangs ["militias"] are in charge in order to control people, so even if the food is made available, it doesn't reach the hungry unless they are doing the bidding of the gangs. Therefore, supplying food just feeds your enemy with power over the local populace...a *no win* situation, damned if you do and damned if you don't This is what "Somalia/ Mogadishu" was all about. All the aid was going into the hands of the war lords at gun point. Deprivation makes any supply all the more powerful a tool. It's the #1 tool of control that any unofficial group has...and since that's "where the food comes from" the *gangs* become your ONLY friend. Your only alternative is to leave...with a very high risk of getting shot in the back as you do. If you DO manage to leave and those you went to don't win, you get shot in the front later on. You can dump tons of food in there but nobody but the local militia and flunkies get to eat. Even if you *find* an MRE, it has to be turned in or you die right now of bullets or cordless hand drills at the hand of fed enforcers, rather than later of hunger.
 The "Iraqi government" knows full well how it all works.
Being not much better than the preferred gang themselves, it wouldn't surprise me that they'd use the same tactics as much as the puppet masters [USA] lets them get away with. And every time they *have to* supply an area they don't control, they know without a doubt they are making the enemy stronger.

"Our" problem is that we can't morally operate on that level of absolute uncaring ruthlessness and can't win unless we do. Really, the only option an outsider has is to just shoot everything that moves till nothing moves, then feed what's left *if* they behave, just like "they" all do it... but that ain't gonna happen. Turning a blind eye to the "traditions" of absolute control, letting the most favored gang operate as ruthlessly as it takes, is the only other option. That gang may have a desire to change the paradigm, but first, it must be in control. If it's not sufficiently ruthless, it won't be.

People who can't comprehend that way of things will complain and condemn. Those who do will be heartbroken, but that's how it works over there and has for centuries. It was that way before the rise of Islam virtually everywhere, but the tactics and traditions of absolutes were "Codified" by Mohammed, thus Islam has had the greatest success at remaining the same over the centuries. The same old endless war where a common enemy is the only friend of unity possible. The code of Islam makes *everyone else* that enemy. If it wins, it loses along with everyone else and in the mean time, it can't decide *who* IT is either. It only thinks it knows *what* it is. [What it really is in the end, is it's own worst enemy.]
Unfortunate, to say the least.

The only Muslim who has a prayer of a peace that's not life "fought to an impoverished standstill" is the apostate Muslim, the "moderate" too frightened to show a face of resistance to the true unadulterated and complete *faith* as written by Mohammed which is nothing short of being a process of raising endless armies for endless wars playing a huge mindless game of "King Of the Hill"

Ode


At 08:39 PM 7/30/2007 +0200, you wrote:

Dan , today OXFAM produced a report stating that the Iraqi Govt ( a
creation of the US Govt )  is failing to provide water, food ,
sanitation and shelter  for 8 ( EIGHT ) MILLION people - every single
day.  I doubt that powering up a walkman " or whatever they use these
days " is on the top of their priority list but it is a happy thought
- thanks- Richard
On 30/07/2007, at 15:08, Dan Nave wrote:

 If you are just going for a colloidal silver maker in Iraq, you do
not
need batteries.
There is plenty of reliable sun.  You just need a solar cell and a
current limit circuit.

The batteries will just cause more expense and they will probably be
taken out for
a more important purpose, like powering up the walkman or whatever
they
use
these days...

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Generators for Iraqi Refugees

Maybe simple is best.  You can't get simpler than four 9-V ni-cad
solar
rechargeable batteries.

The only really desirable addition would be the electronics to produce
automatic shutoff and  constant current.

Constant current, in my personal experience, makes a big difference.
Without that, there's a sudden surge  that produces a big cloud of
particles before the device shuts off.




On Sunday, Jul 29, 2007, at 11:44 Asia/Tokyo, CWFugitt wrote:

Keep in mind that near 100% of such devices have an overhead and a
direct effect on efficiency.


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