Dear Peter:

Kathryn has done an excellent job of answering your questions.

I will add my two cents.  I do not have Lyme, but a friend of mine had it
and I helped develop a system that got rid of it.  Please take a look at 
http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus 
So far as I know, normal ionic colloidal silver by itself will not be useful
in dealing with the Lyme spirochetes.  Once you kill the spirochetes and
have serious herx reactions then colloidal silver will be of great benefit.
My friend Carol consumed as much as 32 ounces a day to help to deal with
secondary infections and the fever and chills caused by the dead
spirochetes.

There is another product called MesoSilver made by Frank Key that is mostly
extremely small particles and very little ionic and there is some
information that this type of colloidal silver may be effective for Lyme. 
 
http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/1568940264asf589d516d3615d746afdfaf
d/lym5813.htm 

There is a yahoo group that you might want to visit that deals mostly with
Lyme.
lyme-and-r...@yahoogroups.com


Jim Meissner   www.MeissnerResearch.com 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>H2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO

Hi Peter,

Welcome to the group. I am not official in any way, so this is an 
unofficial welcoming message.  ;-)

You have so many questions, I am not sure anyone has the answers for 
many of them. I don't think I have lyme, but did have one positive 
test, they said false positive, but who knows if that means anything, 
and if so, what.  It sounds like you have been doing your homework.  I 
guess I can tell you what I have read, but I have not nebulized myself.

On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Peter Converse wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and 
> looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of 
> the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen 
> mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration 
> and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the 
> bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer 
> research suggestions  about these methods as well as using cayenne 
> pepper.
>  
>  
> Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they 
> used to improve delivery to all body sites?

bronchial and lungs, probably, but your mileage may vary.

> Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what 
> would be the best ratio for this?

I definitely would not do that, but if you feel like it, it's your 
body. I have only seen reference to people here using H2O2 in small 
amounts to break up any slightly larger particles that might have 
formed, so there is more uniformity and tininess (is that even a  
word?).


>  If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on 
> paper?


I have seen recipes for adding DMSO to ionic silver water for eyedrops 
or other specific applications to carry the silver deeper into the 
tissues. I do not recall the amount used, but it was small.

>  Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a 
> means of delivery improvement?

That might make sense for killing things residing in the colon.

>  Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness?

LOL  ???  who knows?

> Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and 
> effectiveness of IVs?
>  

I have not heard anyone talking about using cs as an IV fluid, 
recently. It may have been discussed, but I do not remember it.

> If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way 
> to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using 
> tanks of O2?

Most seem to use a nebulizer without O2, or even a spray bottle. I have 
sprayed it into a plastic bag and inhaled it, and that worked. After I 
tried that, I bought a cold mist humidifier to use, but have not a 
reason yet, so I have not tried it.

> Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like 
> Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery?

I guess you could use whatever you want. The Gatorade has a balance of 
sodium and potassium, also a little sugar (now corn syrup, which I will 
not drink). There are other equivalent electrolyte replacement formulas 
on the market, or you could make your own using salt and NuSalt, which 
is potassium.

> I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research 
> in the right direction.  Thanks,   Blessings,
> Peter

you are welcome, I am not sure I was any help, but there you are. Take 
care, and good luck with the lyme.

Kathryn


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