I try to stay out of the politics but this time I will put in my 2 cents and then butt out. Republicans do not have to rejoice in Obama but they should be open to an opportunity for things to be better. "Better"? Would that be increased capital gains taxes/job losses, a guaranteed tax increase in 2010 when the Bush tax cuts are non-renewed, a "tax cut" (i.e., welfare check) to people who don't pay taxes, institution of the "Fairness doctrine", elimination of secret ballots for union voting, unlimited abortions, etc? That's "better"??? Eye of the beholder, I guess. The Republicans had their opportunity and it is an understatement to say they failed miserably... They failed miserably because they spent like good Democrats instead of limited-government fiscal conservatives...so our response is to elect a government that will make that spending look small-time in comparison? So now the Democrats have their chance and we should all hope they can suceed I do not hope they can succeed in expanding the size and scope of government and the increased reliance of the populace on government to solve all their problems by taxing and controlling the producers and redistributing their gains (aka "socialism"). Sorry, but I can not hope for that change.
-----Original Message----- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Off Topic Politics I try to stay out of the politics but this time I will put in my 2 cents and then butt out. Republicans do not have to rejoice in Obama but they should be open to an opportunity for things to be better. The Republicans had their opportunity and it is an understatement to say they failed miserably and would continue to do so if given the chance. So now the Democrats havve their chance and we should all hope they can suceed where the Republicans did not. You seem to consider liberals as a dirty word but in the words of another: For the better part of a decade, the conservatives made liberal a dirty word. Well, it isn't. It represents the best and most noble nature of what America stands for: equitable government services, old age pensions, health care, education, fair trials and humane imprisonment. It is the heart and soul of what made American different and better than other countries. Not only an escape from oppression, but the opportunity to thrive in land free of tradition and the repression that can bring. We offered a democracy which didn't enshrine the rich and made them feel they had an obligation to their workers. Bush and the people around him disdain that. They think, by accident of birth and circumstance, they were meant to rule the world and those who did not agree would suffer. Liberal does not and has not meant weak until the conservatives said it did. Was Martin Luther King weak? Bobby Kennedy? Gene McCarthy? It was the liberals who remade this country and ended legal segregation and legal sexism. Not the conservatives, who wanted to hold on to the old ways. It's time to regain the spirit of FDR and Truman and the people around them. People who believed in the public good over private gain. It is time to stop apologizing for being a liberal and be proud to fight for your beliefs. No more shying away or being defined by other people. Liberals believe in a strong defense and punishment for crime. But not preemption and pointless jail sentences. We believe no American should be turned away from a hospital because they are too poor or lack a proper legal defense. We believe that people should make enough from one job to live on, to spend time on raising their family. We believe that individuals and not the state should dictate who gets married and why. The best way to defend marriage is to expand, not restrict it. It was the liberals who opposed the Nazis while the conservatives were plotting to get their brown shirts or fund Hitler. It was the liberals who warned about Spain and fought there, who joined the RAF to fight the Germans, who brought democracy to Germany and Japan. Let us not forget it was the conservatives who opposed defending America until the Germans sank our ships. They would have done nothing as Britain came under Nazi control. It was they who supported Joe McCarthy and his baseless, drink fueled claims. Without liberals, there would be no modern America, just a Nazi sattlelite state. Liberals weak on defense? Liberals created America's defense. The conservatives only need vets at election time. - Steve N _____ From: Terry [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy It began with Faith's gushing about our "wonderful new president" - or do you actually read any of these comments? -----Original Message----- From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Silver Puppy On 11/5/08, Terry <slickpic...@cox.net> wrote: Duh. The idea is that this board is not for political musings - but if Mike allows, bring it on. Except yours obviously Kirsteen
