Firstly, a correction if I may, that 'colloid' determination I mentioned from material I've read states *under* 1 micron, not *over* Marshall, and I get the impression that this is a generalisation for classifying what constitutes a 'colloid' in the field of chemistry. Using this information, as I do, then finding out the size a solid particle will pass through the gut wall, finding out the size of the smallest capillary in the body, finding out the what is the largest size which will pass through the blood brain barrier etc etc, this is what I go by in making my determinations regarding quality of solution and it's efficacy. Flawed...? well, praps it may be, but it's the best a 'non chemistry' brain can go by.
The total AG was determined by acidifying using HNO3. The ionic componant specifically is not stated, it just states 'soluble Ag', which I assumed to be the ionic componant. But as I think I said earlier, this would probly include a percentage of particles SMALLER than .45 microns which DID pass through that filter, in which case I would imagine the particle content will actually be HIGHER...Yes/No? Then it states "Solids (filtered using .45 micron paper)" = 5.0mg/l. These would be the particles which are LARGER than .45 microns, and who knows how many...? due to agglomeration during filtering process. Then "theoretical insoluble Ag content" of 11.5mg/l. In the result sheet it states, "Analysed using AAS using AgHNO3 STDS". That's all I can tell you cos that's all I know. If I understood what testing procedures would be SPECIFICALLY required then praps I could have been more SPECIFIC with my list of testing questions. I did ask for particle sizing but they were unable to do that due to specific equipment required, of which they don't have. They calculated %ionic/%particulate from these procedures being 51/49, in this particular sample. Can't give any more information cos that's all I have, well, apart form Ph, Conductivity and Temperature. As a layperson I asked for what I thought was suitable/appropriate at the time. Oh, almost forgot, NO, I don't use H2O2. N. > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:25:50 -0500 > From: mdud...@king-cart.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>CS Marshall Part 3. > > Can you tell me exactly how you are determining the total silver level, > the ionic silver level, and the colloidal silver level? I do take issue > with the notion that a colloid only contains particles that are over 1 > micron. Virtually none of good EIS is over that size. A colloid is a > suspension of particles of any size that is not dissolved or in > solution. As such, no filter paper is going to remove a significant > number of them, that would require would be reverse osmosis. > > Marshall > > Neville Munn wrote: > > Sincere apologies for stretching this out Marshall but just as an example: > > > > One result...Total Ag (acidified HNO3)=23.5mg/l (clear solution) > > > > 12.0mg/l was soluble (filtered thru 0.45 micron paper), now ignore the > > filter part cos that doesn't mean a great deal to me, in fact it means > > nothing to me due to agglomeration of silver during filtering process, > > so I'd like to work on the soluble part. > > > > AAS was incorporated somewhere in this sample testing also. > > > > That 12.0mg/l soluble part would obviously contain ions and particles, > > and some, probly most...? would be well within the smallest size which > > is deemed a *must have size*, however, the larger ones, the ones that > > STILL passed thru that filter, would have to still be bio-available. > > I am not so much concerned with that larger particle component as the > > other silver content will still be in abundance and still be somewhat > > efficacious. Literature I have read states "for a substance to be > > classified as a 'colloid' that substance should be no larger > > than 1000nm or 1 micron in size". Now couple that with the fact that > > I believe ALL the silver content falls WELL below that limit, and my > > visual observation of NIL settlement, you can see where I get my idea > > from, flawed as that may be praps, so if you can expand on all I have > > noted here it could be of some assistance to me. > > > > If a suitable explanation requires considerable chemistry details and > > equations then don't worry about it cos it would go straight over my > > head, I'm just basically wanting to know if it's possible for you to > > give me a SIMPLE reason for why my clear solution came back with such > > a close balance of ions to particles, and why that result seems to be > > at odds with some. Praps it's been said before at some time but if > > it's in chemistry language it probly went in one ear and straight out > > the other. > > > > I'll let you decide if a reply is worthy of the time and/or effort. > > > > N. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Australia's #1 job site If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > _________________________________________________________________ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
