Greg, A good place to start is by determining how much silver ACS recommends using. That is much more important than the actual ppm of the solution. Ppm is mostly useful for determining how much silver one is taking.
The recommended dosage for ACS 200 is: * An initial dose of 1 to 2 ounces. One ounce of ACS 200 contains 5.9 mg of silver. Then you take one of the following Daily doses: * 5 sprays, 2 -3 times daily for a normal dosage. At three times a day that would equal 0.48 mg of silver * 10 sprays, 4 times daily for a therapeutic dosage. That would equal 1.28 mg of silver. ASAP silver uses H2O2 combined with their CS (EIS). To make CS equivalent to the ASAP follow Marshall's directions at the link below. You use the CS you make with your Silvergen but wait two days after making the CS before adding the 3% H2O2. ASAP uses more H2O2 but I don't know that that will make a difference. It might, by increasing the silver oxide content, which appears to provide the oomph of their product (per their patent). Marshall's paper: http://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm How does H2O2 affect EIS? When H2O2 is added to EIS (one or two drops per glass of EIS), it will be noted that there is an immediate clearing effect. The Tyndall (what you see if you shine a laser pointer though the liquid) will become very faint as well. If the ppm of the EIS is sufficiently high (25 to 30 ppm) a white cloudy precipitate may form as well. There are a number of reactions that occur. H2O2 is normally thought of as an oxidizer, but it can act as a reducer as well. Also silver is considered a catalyst for H2O2, but in actuality gets directly involved in the reactions. The H2O2 reacts with the silver particles, producing ionic silver, a combination of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. This makes the large particles disappear, reducing the tyndall. However H2O2 also reacts with the silver oxide and silver hydroxide producing a 2 atom colloid of silver plus oxygen (and water in the case of silver hydroxide). Over time this 2 atom colloidal particle can end up being converted back to silver oxide and silver hydroxide, and so forth. The final result is a mixture of ionic silver (hydroxide and oxide) and very small colloidal particles. Thus if you add H2O2 to freshly made EIS, you can sometimes see the oxygen bubble off, and the tyndall may change significantly. But more importantly, the particulate portion of the EIS will go from being medium or large particles to many more very small particles, and the particle content will increase from a typical 5-15% to around 30-50%. If you have a strong tyndall from large particles, it will decrease, and if you have a weak or no tyndall it will increase with the formation of the 2 atom particles. This enhances absorption, as well as effectiveness. Note that it is recommended to let the EIS sit for 5 or more minutes if you do add H2O2 to it to let it stabilize. The amounts equivalent to the ACS doses, for your 12 ppm CS are: For 5.9 mg of silver take 16.9 ounces of 12 ppm CS. For 0.40 mg of silver take 1.1 ounces of 12 ppm CS For 1.28 mg of silver take 3.5 ounces of 12 ppm CS I think that those amounts will be equal to or better than what you will get with ACS 200 or Mesosilver. However, personally I would reduce the initial and therapeutic dosages to something lower. I would cut both in half. For the initial dose, I would take 4 oz of CS with H2O2 in the morning followed at least 3 hours later by 4 oz of CS in 8 oz of Gatorade. I would also cut the therapeutic dosage in half and split it between CS/H2O2 and CS/Gatorade. Again taken at different times. The CS/Gatorade combination will provide some silver citrate to your daily dose. Personally, I think that is a beneficial addition. Take a look at the kill times ACS 200 publishes: http://www.resultsrna.com/research/acs_200_comparing_kill_kinetics_of_the_leading_antimicrobials.php Now look at kill times for 30 ppm silver citrate: http://www.purebio.com/products/sdc_hard_surface The kill times of the 30 ppm silver citrate are equal to those of 200 ppm ACS 200. I would expect the use of Gatorade will give you equal to or better performance while reducing the total amount of silver consumed daily. It also keeps average silver consumed to less than 1 mg per day, something I recommend. The last part with Gatorade is just my personal opinion. Others may not agree. - Steve N From: Greg Ball [mailto:granb...@msn.com] Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>silver for lyme and babesia Thanks everyone for addressing my question on the difference between brands and home made silver! Looks like I should stick with my home made. One question: Steve N. said the following "I see nothing special about ACS. The ACS kill test data shows a 3 min. kill time for ACS vs 60 minutes for Sovereign Silver. But ACS is 200 ppm vs Sovereign Silver's 10 ppm. Just based on ppm alone I would expect ACS to be 20 times faster and sure enough that is what the results show, If ACS is diluted to 10 ppm I would expect it would take 60 minutes too. And the 5 hours for Mesosilver is as expected too. It is known that it takes time for silver particles to release enough ions to kill pathogens and sure enough the data shows it. Nothing new in the test data. EIS would be comparable to ACS if both were at the same ppm." Here's my question: My Silvergen machine is putting out about 12 ppm. Would flooding my body with my silver solution be just as good as taking small quantities of the ACS or and Mesosilver? Any idea how much I would need to take of the silvergen solution to have it be on the same level of the other two? Also - I'm really sorry - I'm super spacey and don't remember if someone explained this to me: Is EIS the same thing I make with my silvergen? Or do I have to do something to my silvergen solution to make it into EIS? I remember someone saying something about adding peroxide. If so, could you share any directions? Thanks!!!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
