I actually think he doesn't *read* anyone else's emails properly at all!  He 
seems to me to be only interested in what *he* is saying.  dee

On 16 Feb 2010, at 19:28, M. G. Devour wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Could I ask a few of you to do a favor for me, and please forward this 
> message to John Stevens? 
> 
> I'll let each of you decide for yourselves if you'd like to assist. 
> Feel free to cc: me on your message.
> 
> I'm beginning to fear he really does have the list owner in his kill-
> file, and thus never actually sees my attempts to encourage improvement 
> in his attitude or behavior.
> 
> Either that, or he simply wants his opinions to be meekly accepted 
> without debate, or he will mock and belittle anyone who doesn't toe his 
> line -- and apparently considers the wishes of his host in this matter 
> to be beneath his notice.  
> 
> The number of people who are such misfits as to actually fail to get 
> along in this environment is satisfyingly small. I'm truly hoping he's 
> not going to choose to be one of the elite few... <sigh>
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mike Devour
> silver-list owner
> 
> 
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> Date forwarded:       Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:32:45 -0800
> From:                 "M. G. Devour" <mdev...@eskimo.com>
> To:                   silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date sent:            Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:32:55 -5
> Subject:              Re: CS>effects of STOPPING EIS?
> Priority:             normal
> Forwarded by:         silver-list@eskimo.com
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> 
> John writes:
>> Everyone is a know-it-all.  Steve Barrett is no friend of mine!  Don't
>> be careful - just do what you obviously wanna' do...  Use it
>> slip-shod. doesn't matter to me.  Seems like the gang mentality is
>> back and no one is thinking for themselves.
> 
> It's not an either-or thing, folks.
> 
> John, the "Blue Man" is so irrelevant to what MaryAnn was saying that 
> what you said *does* sound like Quackwatch scare tactics; just as your 
> unqualified statement that daily use *will* harm the flora both 
> contradicts extensive experience and was potentially harmful.  
> 
> Far more relevant are the solid, informative discussions we've had in 
> the last few weeks, documenting and analyzing two real, live cases of 
> generalized argyria. These gentlemen used CS that appears to fit our 
> definition of "good" in such large amounts for so long that it 
> obviously overcame their bodies' ability to excrete it.   
> 
> Somewhere between the demonstrably harmless 'swig-a-day' and 'a half- 
> liter a day for 2 years' now known to have caused at least one or two 
> cases of argyria, we have resolved a threshold, one that we formerly 
> did not recognize. That's where MaryAnn's comments show that we still 
> need to adjust our thinking to include this new information.   
> 
> "Careful" now needs to apply to very aggressive EIS use, MaryAnn, sadly
> enough. This news enhances the importance of the advice to supplement
> with selenium and vitamin E to support elimination when using silver in
> large amounts, just as we acknowledge that probiotics will be helpful
> when enough silver *is* being taken for it to harm the flora.
> 
> Simple disagreement with your opinions is not justification for 
> accusing other members of "gang mentality," [edit: add "know-it-all" 
> and "slipshod"...] John. Your opinions are welcome, but do not demand 
> immunity from dissent.  
> 
> Finally, I wish to deal with a minor issue: 
> 
> John Stevens: 
> 
> Just to be sure, I want to mention that on a few occasions in the last 
> several weeks, I've made postings like this one, intended to referee 
> these minor disputes *and* encourage improvement in the behavior of 
> those involved, e.g., my remark addressed to you just above.  
> 
> Your lack of response to some of these makes me worry that you might 
> have added my address to your kill-file or are experiencing some other 
> technical difficulty that prevents you seeing messages from me.  
> 
> So, please let me know that you have seen and read this message? Thank 
> you very much!  
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
> list owner
> 
> Dee wrote:
>>> Golly, I can't believe that a person who is supposed to know about
>>> CS and is on this list, could actually *say* this!  Sounds like
>>> Quackwatch!  dee
>>> 
> 
> John E. Stevens wrote:
>>> Not true, Maryann.  One does have to be careful - check out the
>>> "Blue-Man..."
> 
> MaryAnn Helland wrote:
>>>> If there's one thing that has been demonstrated, over and over on
>>>> this list, it's that you don't have to "be careful" in the use of
>>>> CS.
>>>> Not the kind that we make.  One should be careful of *purchased*
>>>> CS,
>>>> and one should be careful in the use of antibiotics, drugs, etc.,
>>>> but the hallmark of what we do here is "can't hurt, might help". 
>>>> FWIW MA
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
> [Speaking only for myself...               ]
> 
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