Thanks for this Steve. One question, what do you mean by "swelling clays"?
Is this a process for making them usable?
PT
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From: "Norton, Steve" <stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:13 AM
Subject: RE:CS>Zeolite - Does it Really Work?
Peter,
As you mentioned, zeolite is difficult to find real data on. I went thru
that several years age and found enough for me to make a personal opinion
but I have not tried to look for updated info because of the effort
involved. Here is some of what I found back then.
Regarding liquid zeolite formulas. The original MLM version has a patent
that you can find online. There are other versions employing either humic or
fulvic acid. Some comments on what I found regarding liquid zeolite:
1. An "activation" process is used in the patent and by at least one of the
humic acid alternatives. Basically the activation process is to heat the
zeolite in an acid at high temperatures. The purpose of the acid/heat
treatment of the zeolite is to flush out all the heavy metals that natural
zeolite is reported to have already trapped within its honeycomb structure.
This is then reported to eliminate heavy metals that could be transported
into the body and also to increase the available adsorption capacity of the
treated zeolite by up to 20 times that of the untreated zeolite. If you do
a Google search on "acid treated zeolite" you will find a good number of
technical papers that provide real data on the effects the acid/heat
treatment has on the zeolite. Report after report stated that the acid/heat
treatment of the zeolite reduces the cation exchange capacity of the zeolite
and increased the desorb characteristics of the zeolite. The cation exchange
capacity of the zeolite is the quantity of positively charged ions (cations)
that the zeolite can accommodate on its negatively charged surface. One of
the key features of zeolite is its negatively charged surface that draws
positively charged toxins to it and bonds the toxins to the zeolite
providing for the removal of the toxins with the zeolite when the zeolite
passes from the body.
Desorption is a phenomenon whereby a substance is released from or through a
surface. The process is the opposite of sorption (that is, adsorption and
absorption). The more a chemical desorbs, the less likely it will adsorb and
adsorption is one of the characteristics that allow heavy metals and toxins
to bond to the zeolite for removal from the body. After adsorption, the
adsorbed chemical will remain bonded to the zeolite nearly indefinitely,
provided the temperature remains low.
This means that the "activation" process actually significantly degrades the
desired characteristics of zeolite. Claim that activated zeolite increases
the capacity of the zeolite by up to 20 times that of the untreated zeolite.
The natural zeolite I have seen has normally a no more than a 10% reduction
in capacity due to absorbed minerals and metals. I see no no way to get a 20
times increase.
2. Some claim that zeolite is absorbed into the bloodstream where it kills
cancer or tumors. Some liquid Zeolite suppliers claim that the zeolite
combines with humic acid and is carried into the bloodstream. Others make
the claim that testing shows that 60% of orally taken liquid zeolite is
passed out in the urine and 40% via the feces, thereby proving that zeolite
must be absorbed into the bloodstream. One states that the zeolite has been
screened with a #325 mesh screen vs. others with larger particle sizes and
thus their zeolite is small enough to pass into the bloodstream but the
others are not.
* A #325 mesh screen passes particles that are 44 microns or smaller. One
micron = 10,000 angstroms, so 44 microns is equal to 440,000 angstroms. I do
not believe claims that zeolite, liquid or otherwise, passes into the blood
stream. The particles are just too large. Particles that do pass into the
bloodstream would not have much if any usable portion of the zeolite
three-dimensional honeycomb structure.
3. The claim that zeolite fights cancer and tumors. There is testimonial and
anecdotal evidence that zeolite does affect cancer and tumors in the body.
If zeolite does affect cancers and tumors, the method by which it does so is
not yet understood. (Assuming that zeolite does not enter the bloodstream)
Some believe that the zeolite triggers the immune system and therefore
boosts the body's natural responses. Others speculate that by removing
toxins, it frees up the body's resources to fight cancer, etc.
There are a number of studies out of Croatia that support zeolite as being
effective against cancer and tumors but they are considered questionable.
Most of the useable information on the nutritional use of zeolite are animal
studies. Many of them are somewhat subjective but you can draw your own
conclusions. There are numerous studies of the effects of zeolite on farm
animals where zeolite has been added to animal feed for some time and
supports zeolite as providing a general and significant improvement in
animal health. I think a good overview of this is provided in patent # WO
2005032268 20061102.
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2005032268&IA=WO2005032268&DISPLAY=CLAIMS
It is common practice to add substances to animal feed to improve the
digestibility of the feed, give them antibiotics to improve animal health
and hormones to increase growth rates. The patent above documents the
results of a study where hormones, antibiotics or digestive aids were
replaced by zeolite and humic acid and fed to farm animals. The results are
compared against animals that were fed the normal hormones, antibiotics and
digestive aids. The humic acid replaced the digestive aids and the zeolite
replaced the antibiotics. The results are impressive. In all cases animal
growth rates of the zeolite/humic acid fed animals matched or exceeded the
growth rates of the animals fed hormones, antibiotics and digestive aids.
Some other benefits:
Poultry: death rates reduced by 79%, egg size increased 60% and egg breakage
reduced by 33%.
Piglets: death rates reduced by 75% and increased litter sizes by sows.
Fish: death rates reduced by 50% and unit weight increased by 23%.
The odor of liquid and solid animal waste was significantly reduced.
I use only powdered zeolite and not the liquid zeolite. I had a source of
zeolite at $3/lb plus shipping but it has been raised to $20/lb, shipping
included. I find the powdered zeolite more convenient than swelling clays,
but I use both.
- Steve N
From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca]
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL:CS>Zeolite - Does it Really Work?
Hi Folks,
As Steve mentioned regarding zeolite, it's just about impossible to find
some unbiased information while researching, due to the MLM factor.
It's kind of funny that he mentioned this because I have been recently
looking into zeolite once again, trying to dig up some "truth". Man...is it
ever hard to tell fact from fiction when it comes to this topic!!
Back in 2007 I did try the MLM liquid zeolite for a few months and I did
actually seem to notice some great improvements in the way I had been
feeling, relative to heavy metal toxicity and overall immune health. The
cost of the product kept me from going on with it any longer though.
I am presently considering trying either the liquid zeolite (NCD) once
again, trying Garry Gordon's nano zeolite product or giving the Zeolite Pure
product a shot. Can anyone make any suggestions about any of these based on
personal experiences or experiences of family members or close friends?
Does anyone have any well grounded scientific facts about the effectiveness
of any of these products to permanently bind toxins?
The company selling the MLM brand has had so much controversy in its history
I really don't know what I can believe from these people. I see their
product testimonials and I have to wonder how much truth could be in any of
them. Comments?
What about alternatives to zeolite to serve the same purpose of binding and
escorting heavy metals and other toxins from the body? Ideas?
Many thanks,
Peter
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