HVAC will not produce that ratio, but MesoSilver I believe uses
sputtering for their manufacturing process.
Marshall
On 2/1/2012 7:58 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
OK Janet, well I don't believe that ion/particle ratio is possible
with LVDC, so that suggests to me that HVAC is used, and for
commercial production that would obviously make sense, but I'm not a
lover or supporter of HVAC produced EIS/CS. Now, before anyone gets
off their high horse, I have *NOTHING* against said product/s and
don't ask me why I am not a supporter of HVAC produced products, I
have my own reasons, and it's each to their own on the subject of HVAC
vs LVDC products.
Particle size is much more complicated than that to me. Most reports
state TEM images or whatever for determining size and I don't believe
that is by any stretch of the imagination to be an accurate picture.
It may work fine on a glass slide, but what about in the body/blood?
Again, this is my personal opinion and conviction.
My lab analysis was done using AAS and incorporating a .45 micron
paper filter {yep, that's 450nm I believe} so I don't follow any
statement regarding particle size because those particles could do
anything in the filtering process. I don't pretend to understand
laboratory techniques or procedures, but I surmise that as the
solution is passed through that filter, the more particles present
will encourage more particles to collect in that filter. For
simplicity, when a couple of particles are trapped in that filter,
other particles will become trapped {regardless of size}, thus this
paper filtering is relatively meaningless to me.
The colour is another issue whereby I have my own opinion. Any colour
up to golden is perfectly fine, anything over that, or darker is of
some concern to me as it indicates the solution does not meet my
quality standards. Yet again, this is my own personal opinion and
conviction.
My lab reports made me think considerably differently about home
produced EIS/CS to what I read in the public domain, using LVDC of
course, which is why I take anything a marketer says with a pinch of
salt {no pun intended <g>}.
May I take the liberty of adding this reminder...I am a solitary
animal, I speak for myself only and I am not a follower of any
particular flock. I make my own determinations from literature I have
perused over considerable time. I mean no disrespect to a person or
criticism of any product out there, I make my own determinations on
matters EIS/CS related.
There, I think I've been tactful and as diplomatic as I can <g>.
N.
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From: berge...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Mesosilver
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:50:11 -0500
Neville, Eskimo,
MesoSilver prints the ppm and the particle size in nms on their label.
I'm assuming its the average size of particles (.65 nm) and they state
the ratio is 80% particles w/ 20% ions (don't ask me at what size they
draw the distinction). I believe different size bottles can be
purchased for 10, 15 or 20 ppm.
I've used them over the last 5 years and notice the color does start
at yellow and continues on to darker colors as the months go by. It's
nice to know today there are ways to determine, to some degree, what
the particle density (ppm) is via conductivity measures- to begin with
and as a finished product of colloidal silver. And the more
challenging determination of particle size via electron microscope for
the 1%ers and the laser option for the rest of us.
Ag 4all
