I will also voice my opinion on face book. I don't have an account there anymore and no wish to open a new one. Interested in keeping the list going and will help pay to keep it going. Val
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Jason <resea...@silvermedicine.org> wrote: > Hi Itguy: > > I agree that remaining on a private list server is the best option; here > at Eskimo or elsewhere. I wish Mike would turn over control, that would > make everything simple. > > I run several facebook groups, and as a forum, it is really terrible. > It's very difficult to save/find threads. It's really set up as a social > platform, not an informational platform. > > I don't like any of the "groups" websites out there for list servers, > especially since it is so easy to set up a secure and private list server > on an independent domain. Their privacy policy is only valid up to the > next buyout. Most of these companies exist solely with an exit strategy in > mind. > > Mailman is open source and free to use, and is almost identical to > Eskimo's system. It's very efficient and relatively easy to customize and > set up. > > ~Jason > > > > On 6/5/2017 3:02 PM, Itguy wrote: > >> I agree - it's really not going to work with Mike not coming back. One >> thing I disagreed with Mike about in the past was his publishing of the >> list contents in an open archive. I do not feel that is conducive for >> privacy, security and anonymity for anyone. In this day and age we really >> need to be aware of such things. Especially with a topic where people have >> been suppressed/harassed/stalked about such as alternative remedies and >> such.. >> >> Speaking as a Senior IT Security Engineer - >> >> I'd be inclined to agree with Facebook with a major caveat... There >> could be some concerns with privacy and security on Facebook as it's widely >> known facebook aggregates telemetry with other sources including CIA funded >> WPP and others. Facebook will offer absolutely no privacy/security and >> anonymity for anyone.. So if you go there, remember that you'll likely lose >> people and folks will be less inclined to share their thoughts in an open >> fashion. >> >> Yahoo is definately out of the question as Yahoo themselves built a >> backdoor into their systems for the US Intel cartels and has a history of >> 'repeated' hacks. Yahoo should never be considered for anything, even email. >> >> Groups.io one is probably the best option for now. But I am convinced >> Mike isn't ready to give up control even if he isn't interested in >> moderating or even reading the list. >> >> The most simple solution would be for someone to take over this list.. I >> will assist financially to 'pay the bills' if someone can convince Mike to >> turn over the reigns.. I think he would trust myself or Marshall to take >> over ownership because he knows both of us personally. If I took it over I >> would allocate moderators to assist and advise me and just pay the bills. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017, at 02:44 PM, Steve G wrote: >> >>> In that case, since he isn't cooperating, this group should just migrate >>> to a new platform as best we can. Yahoo groups are still out there and >>> seem to still thrive. Facebook is another possibility, but that forces >>> everyone to have a Facebook account. >>> >>> The status quo of having a group that the owner is neglecting just >>> doesn't work. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> ** >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> **From:** Jason <resea...@silvermedicine.org> >>> **To:** silver-list@eskimo.com >>> **Sent:** Monday, June 5, 2017 2:31 PM >>> **Subject:** CS>re: Mike is Well >>> >>> >>> ...Mike should turn over the account to someone willing to manage it. >>> >>> ...or, the list should be transferred to another host before it shuts >>> off one day. >>> >>> I don't mind running a list, there are some good free list server >>> software packages that can be run from any domain. >>> >>> ~Jason >>> >>> >>> On 6/5/2017 5:43 AM, Itguy wrote: >>> >>> > Unfortunately I cannot offer any further assistance. >>> > >>> > Mike doesn't have any willingness to manage the list any longer. After >>> > I explained to him the concerns from list members and the need for him >>> > to admin the list he said for now he will keep paying the bills but >>> > can't many any further promises. I told him I would advise that he >>> > simply delete his entire inbox at his email address and start anew. >>> > He's too far behind to even attempt to parse through what may amount >>> > to multiple thousands of emails after many years of neglect. Then once >>> > deleted he can 'keep up' by checking his list and inbox a couple of >>> > times a week... >>> > >>> > It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made my wellness trip to his home and >>> > he hasn't checked his email to cleaned out the box, it's still filled >>> > up. I don't think he took my advice. Mike uses Gmail now but didn't >>> > provide me with that address so I have no way to reach him other than >>> > his cell phone number. (should he answer) To be honest, I suspect Mike >>> > isn't even involved with CS any longer. >>> > >>> > All I can say at this point is there isn't anything you can do about >>> > this list other than to let it deprecate and possibly manually move >>> > people to a new list. Sorry I cannot be of further help. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Itguy >>> > it...@fastmail.com <mailto:it...@fastmail.com> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org < >>> http://www.silverlist.org/> >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list-request@es >>> kimo.com>?subject=unsubscribe> >>> Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com <mailto: >>> silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com>> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com <mailto: >>> mdev...@eskimo.com>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >