Yes, Jason, Sticking with the existing Eskimo.com Procmail/Smartmail setup would be the simplest. Technically that could be done by a moderator who gets all the "other" emails sent to the Silverlist Admin email address <mdev...@eskimo.com> The moderator (moderators) would need Mike to give them enough info (passwords etc) to manage the list on his behalf.
I'm reading between lines but I think Eskimo.com support staff find that hosting Procmail is a bit of a pain for them. OK, Tony On 5 Jun 2017 at 15:17, Jason wrote about : Subject : Re: CS>re: Mike is Well > Hi Itguy: > > I agree that remaining on a private list server is the best option; here > at Eskimo or elsewhere. I wish Mike would turn over control, that would > make everything simple. > > I run several facebook groups, and as a forum, it is really terrible. > It's very difficult to save/find threads. It's really set up as a > social platform, not an informational platform. > > I don't like any of the "groups" websites out there for list servers, > especially since it is so easy to set up a secure and private list > server on an independent domain. Their privacy policy is only valid up > to the next buyout. Most of these companies exist solely with an exit > strategy in mind. > > Mailman is open source and free to use, and is almost identical to > Eskimo's system. It's very efficient and relatively easy to customize > and set up. > > ~Jason > > > > On 6/5/2017 3:02 PM, Itguy wrote: > > I agree - it's really not going to work with Mike not coming back. One > > thing I disagreed with Mike about in the past was his publishing of > > the list contents in an open archive. I do not feel that is conducive > > for privacy, security and anonymity for anyone. In this day and age we > > really need to be aware of such things. Especially with a topic where > > people have been suppressed/harassed/stalked about such as alternative > > remedies and such.. > > > > Speaking as a Senior IT Security Engineer - > > > > I'd be inclined to agree with Facebook with a major caveat... There > > could be some concerns with privacy and security on Facebook as it's > > widely known facebook aggregates telemetry with other sources > > including CIA funded WPP and others. Facebook will offer absolutely no > > privacy/security and anonymity for anyone.. So if you go there, > > remember that you'll likely lose people and folks will be less > > inclined to share their thoughts in an open fashion. > > > > Yahoo is definately out of the question as Yahoo themselves built a > > backdoor into their systems for the US Intel cartels and has a > > history of 'repeated' hacks. Yahoo should never be considered for > > anything, even email. > > > > Groups.io one is probably the best option for now. But I am convinced > > Mike isn't ready to give up control even if he isn't interested in > > moderating or even reading the list. > > > > The most simple solution would be for someone to take over this list.. > > I will assist financially to 'pay the bills' if someone can convince > > Mike to turn over the reigns.. I think he would trust myself or > > Marshall to take over ownership because he knows both of us > > personally. If I took it over I would allocate moderators to assist > > and advise me and just pay the bills. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017, at 02:44 PM, Steve G wrote: > >> In that case, since he isn't cooperating, this group should just > >> migrate to a new platform as best we can. Yahoo groups are still out > >> there and seem to still thrive. Facebook is another possibility, but > >> that forces everyone to have a Facebook account. > >> > >> The status quo of having a group that the owner is neglecting just > >> doesn't work. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> ** > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> **From:** Jason <resea...@silvermedicine.org> > >> **To:** silver-list@eskimo.com > >> **Sent:** Monday, June 5, 2017 2:31 PM > >> **Subject:** CS>re: Mike is Well > >> > >> ...Mike should turn over the account to someone willing to manage it. > >> > >> ...or, the list should be transferred to another host before it shuts > >> off one day. > >> > >> I don't mind running a list, there are some good free list server > >> software packages that can be run from any domain. > >> > >> ~Jason > >> > >> > >> On 6/5/2017 5:43 AM, Itguy wrote: > >> > >> > Unfortunately I cannot offer any further assistance. > >> > > >> > Mike doesn't have any willingness to manage the list any longer. After > >> > I explained to him the concerns from list members and the need for him > >> > to admin the list he said for now he will keep paying the bills but > >> > can't many any further promises. I told him I would advise that he > >> > simply delete his entire inbox at his email address and start anew. > >> > He's too far behind to even attempt to parse through what may amount > >> > to multiple thousands of emails after many years of neglect. Then once > >> > deleted he can 'keep up' by checking his list and inbox a couple of > >> > times a week... > >> > > >> > It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made my wellness trip to his home and > >> > he hasn't checked his email to cleaned out the box, it's still filled > >> > up. I don't think he took my advice. Mike uses Gmail now but didn't > >> > provide me with that address so I have no way to reach him other than > >> > his cell phone number. (should he answer) To be honest, I suspect Mike > >> > isn't even involved with CS any longer. > >> > > >> > All I can say at this point is there isn't anything you can do about > >> > this list other than to let it deprecate and possibly manually move > >> > people to a new list. Sorry I cannot be of further help. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Itguy > >> > it...@fastmail.com <mailto:it...@fastmail.com> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > >> <http://www.silverlist.org/> > >> > >> Unsubscribe: > >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com > >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com>?subject=unsubscribe> > >> Archives: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > >> > >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >> <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com>> > >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com > >> <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>> > >> > >> > >> > > >
