The mRNA delivers the message to your ribosomes to create the spike protein, ...in the cytoplasm, which is then presented on the outside of your cells as a toxic foreign thing, and then your immune system decides what to do.   The mRNA doesnt deliver a message to your immune system to tell it what to do, as said in the puff piece cited by Ms Phillips.   The whole process is immunogenic  from the introduction of RNA, the lipid nanoparticles, the production of spike protein, and able to activate a variety of pathogen-associated molecular pattern sensors.  In order to overcome the degradation of the RNA and the hyperinflammatory response they have to modify it with immune evasion strategies, like 5'-capping and  incorporation of N1-methyl-pseudouridine in place of uridine.   The whole development of the vaccine is characterized by an effort to make something inherently unsafe, acceptable.

Your own body is now recognizing this RNA as 'self' and your self is creating toxic spike protein.  They are happy that pseudouridine reduces  triggering of PAMP sensing mechanisms while pumping out 10 times as much spike protein.  Yet the immune system is seeing all this alarming stuff made by our own cells.  We have become the actual source of disease.   Not only antibodies but killer cells are activated, killing these cells which are making toxic stuff, with resulting microthrombi.   This is autoimmunity. No wonder that side effects include vomiting, chills and diarrhea.  The vaccine has made us generators of sickness and the immune system is alarmed about it.   Its probably true that most serious effects will occur soon after vaccination, yet the long term autoimmune effects, inflammatory effects and reactions to new viruses are unknown.

How can you say that fluff piece which says its all nice and known with little messages telling your immune system just what to do is the truth in the real world?  This is a first-in-class licensure for mRNA vaccines.  Emergency use, not fully approved.

 the concept of mRNA-based drugs was  conceived in 1989, when Robert Malone et al  demonstrated that mRNA could be successfully transfected and expressed in a package of  cationic lipids.  Now Dr Malone is raising the alarm about the covid vaccines and is being censored by various media platforms, along with numerous other professionals.  Rather than having dialogue, the standard response today is censorship and slander.  Cyndiann seems to be a part of that

thanks

Max



On 7/27/2021 11:01 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
But it's not false, it's the truth in the REAL world.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 12:05 PM Max <mperrau...@cox.net <mailto:mperrau...@cox.net>> wrote:

    this statement in the link below is blatantly false; *"mRNA
    vaccines.* The vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech use
    messenger RNA, or mRNA, to*deliver a message to your immune system
    with instructions on how to fight the coronavirus infection*."  
    It can be forgiven only because the article is a fluff piece
    written by an unknown for god knows what motive.  The few decades
    of research with mrna vaccines against corona viruses was a failure.

    It must be increasingly embarrassing to call all of the dissenting
    professionals nutjobs.  Can you get better credentials than the
    likes of John Ioannidis,  Sucharit Bahkdi, Peter McCullough?

    Its hard to believe the incredible narrative these people are
    exposing, as it seems so unbelievable.  Even if they are wrong on
    half of it, the scam is about as bad as it gets.  But when you
    look at history, mankind has always engaged in heinous atrocities.

    
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Dr.-Peter-McCullough-on-with-Reiner-Fuelmich-June-11-2021.mp4#t=40
    
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    I dont have a problem with people ignoring those they deem trolls,
    but nor do I have a problem exposing their false narrative.  Ive
    got scientific references for days

    thanks

    Max


    The new vaccines from mRNA have been studied about 30 years but
    you think using shady links to ivermectin crap is a better
    solution, you are a conspiracy nutjob.

    
https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories/how-do-we-know-covid-19-vaccine-wont-have-long-term-side-effects
    
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