Hello All,

I have been following Ivan and Roger discussing blood levels and status of 
Ag in blood, though not in every detail.

Have you thought of asking BB about his dog studies?  They were focused on 
measuring the rate of absorption in the GI tract following tube 
introduction of CS with various electrolyte mixes and monitoring real-time 
the Ag in blood taken from a toe artery.

There may have been some data that will help your investigation, and Brooks 
may be in a position to share it.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-----Original Message-----
From:   Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent:   Sunday, July 30, 2000 8:11 AM
To:     silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:        Re: CS: What happens to it once it gets inside your body? 
Anybody 
know?


From: <rogalt...@aol.com>

> In a message dated 7/30/00 5:46:03 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes:
>
> << Roger, having silver in the urine implies having silver in the
kidneys.
>  Having silver in the kidneys implies that the silver has been
complexed
>  and removed from the plasma and is awaiting elimination.
>
> Ivan: However, if you factor in my preliminary study where I attempted
to do
> a silver balance using my body as a "black box," I found that, after
> CONTINUING to ingest 2.3 mg. CS/day for 5 1/2 months, that I was
removing
> about as much silver as I was putting in. Which implies that I was
able to
> maintain 2.3 mg. of "new" CS in my bloodstream on a daily basis. If
this
> conclusion is true then the degree of systemic protection would have
been
> about 2.3 mg divided by an average of 8 liters of blood gives 288 PPB.
I know
> that level of protection works very well for swimming pools (which may
only
> contain about 40 PPB). How well it works in the human bloodstream? You
got
> me.

Roger, you are assuming that the silver remains in your blood stream
when this is not necessarily so, and further you assume that whilst in
the blood stream it exists in a form which is able to react with
pathogens, when it is more probable that the silver will bind to the
proteins circulating in the blood plasma, in fairly short order.
Hopefully testing blood will show whether this is so.

>  One would need to test the blood for free silver ions in order to
>  determine the amount in circulation vs time.
>
>  I will do this, as I can test for silver ions, if I can get hold of
some
>  syringes.
>
> Ivan: I think it is very important to establish a steady state input
of a
> known and constant amount of (constant strength, and specified prep)
CS
> first, BEFORE taking blood samples. This approach should make it
easier to
> interpret your results under a specified set of controlled conditions.

I am interested in determining the presence of silver ions in the blood
stream vs time, starting from a zero blood reading. I will know the
concentration and amount I ingest. I don't fancy taking blood for longer
than it takes to establish that no silver ions remain.

> Thanks for your thoughts. As far as "drawing a long bow" is concerned,
I
> don't look at it that way. ANY research should start with a working
> hypothesis (based on theory, observation, or empirical evidence) from
which
> experiments are designed to support or refute it. We are just
BEGINNING this
> journey, "drawing a long bow" is all we have available at this point.
>
> Roger

Ok, no problem with that...I just thought that your statement regarding
evolution and the body knowing silver to be benign was a bit out of left
field, so to speak ;-)

Interesting discussion never the less, and you could be correct of
course!

Cheers
Ivan.



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