Hi Ole Bob

Ah, details, everybody wants details :-)

Ok, I have a pulsed DC output at 20 - 25 khertz, using a 7555 timer IC and
powered by 3 x 9v batteries in series, regulated to 15 volts.  The
electrodes are 99.98% silver wire, 2mm x 100mm wetted length, and slightly
flattened to provide a bit of an edge.  They are suspended parallel about
30mm apart (I will probably widen this on advice from Ivan).  I built my
unit(s) in a short length (55mm) of 90mm PVC stormwater pipe, capped top
and bottom.  The bottom cap, which has a flange that fits neatly over my
DW container, has 2mm probe sockets into which I push the electrodes.  The
unit has a toggle switch with hi-efficiency LED for power on and a
push-button switch with LED for battery level (craps out under 16v).
All up its a neat-looking unit, with no external wires, that can sit on top
of a full container of DW.

I use steam-distilled water that, prior to using, I pour through a WTV
revitalising unit (almost identical to a Grander living water unit).  This
action makes a VERY noticeable difference to the finished product compared
to making it with unaltered distilled water.  I'll leave off getting into
a full on discussion about revitalised or living water just at the moment,
although I'm sure it will generate some diversity of opinion if it hasn't
already.  I usually heat this water to about 45°-50°C, and occasionally
heat it to about 75°C then allow it to cool to 45° before processing.

I run my unit, doing 500mls at a time, for about 2.5 - 3 hours, stirring
about every 15 minutes (I'm interested in continuous stirring which I'll
probably add some time soon).  I did accidently leave my unit on for 4.5
hours yesterday, and forgot to stir, but apart from some grey sludge under
the cathode and a bit of silver oxide under the anode, the result was clear
after filtering.  Now, 24 hours later, the colloid shows a bare hint of
pale yellow and appears crystal clear in normal light.  I'm certainly no
expert on T.E. but a beam shone through the colloid shows no deviation and
only very slight turbidity (if I'm getting this wrong, let me know please).

At present I have not had the colloid I make tested for ppm (will be doing
so soon) or particle size (will be doing so much later - its expensive).
As for pH, please let me know the significance before I purchase any test
strips or borrow someone's meter.  Apart from intuition, taste test and a
couple of significant in vivo results, the only objective test was done by
a friend.  He had three identical small open containers of milk; one was
left untouched, one had a teaspoon of commercial colloidal silver added,
and the third had a teaspoon of colloidal silver made by my unit added.
The containers were left open, on a windowsill I believe.  After a period
of time (between 1 and 2 weeks, I forget the exact timing) the contents
were checked.  The control was a solid block, the commercial colloid one
was almost as solid, and my one was, well, still milk.  What significance
this has I don't know, apart from making a product that will help keep
milk fresh :-)

Now, I don't know if I'm making "second or third best CS" or not Bob, but
I joined this list partly to improve my knowledge and ultimately my CS.
That's already happening because of you and others on this list who freely
give their time and knowledge, and for that I thank you.  With a little
more time perhaps I can get my CS up to gold-medal position :-)
Considering I knew virtually nothing about electronics a few weeks ago I
feel I'm doing OK so far, but of course there's no room for complacency.

If you decide to make some CS for testing from my configuration, Bob, the
use of the WTV water unit (or a Grander will do) is significant.  If you
do get hold of one a comparison testing would be interesting.  Make sure
the tests are done far enough apart physically to reduce the incidence of
entrainment (ah, there's another word that sets off alarm bells in those
still stuck in the old physics).

Namaste

    Mike Fuller

On 20-Oct-00, Robert L. Berger wrote:
> Mike;
> 
> With all due respects Mike, you have "beggar" the questions. If you don't know
> these things about the CS that you are making then you are probably settling
> for second or third best CS.
> 
> The best is so easy to make.
> 
> "Ole Bob"


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