What I don't understand is that just prior to the Yahoo silver club being formed, I had asked them to put one up and I offered to be the moderator of it. They said that they didn't think that there would be enought interest and declined, then a couple of weeks later added it anyway and put that guy on as moderator.
Not sure what is going on over there. Marshall Ivan Anderson wrote: > Had an ongoing discussion with sfropeem64 on the Yahoo silver club. The guy > got upset when members couldn't give him what he wanted, and yet failed to > supply any facts to back his assertions... basically because there aren't > any. > I found him to be disingenuous, with a foul mouth. > > I was interested to read the American Silver (part owned by a mining > co.)patent. The only new work is in producing large batches, and it is this > that is patented not the product. The tests of the ASAP solution against > other commercially available products, as detailed on their web site is a > waste of space...a total of three products with no detail of the selection > process, perhaps these were the only three that performed worse than ASAP... > > Any way, I hope the member of his club (he does have one) looks elsewhere > for good information about CS. > > Ivan. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rainis...@aol.com [mailto:rainis...@aol.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2001 13:50 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: CS>CS Facts Club > > > > > > In my search today trying to find out why I have received almost 0 emails > > from any of the groups I am listed with, I came across this site... > > > > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/colloidalsilverfacts > > > > At first I thought, cool, maybe I'll find some documented facts about cs. > > But, this is what the list owner has to say about cs. > > Just thought some of you may be interested. > > > > ~Hanan (Still puzzled by the lack of activity on my lists) > > > > > > sfropeem64 > > > > > > One researcher out of BYU is conducting animal studies to > > determine if silver > > colloids do anything in the body. Already The University of the > > Pacific has > > conducted studies that show that a specific silver colloid > > solution seems to > > be effective on sinus infections. Another study out of BYU found just ONE > > commercially available product to be standardized and effective > > on killing > > some types of bacteria in petri dishes. That product was the only > > one that > > has a patent on it's manufacture and is standardized. This is interesting > > because one of the things that was repeated to me by the colloidal silver > > true believers over and over was that there can be no patents on silver > > colloids. Again it was obvious that many people making and using > > their own > > colloidal silver that are on colloidal silver lists are ignorant > > and lazy and > > misinforming people; I was able to find research on it, patents, and > > scientific evidence that one type of standardized, patented > > colloidal silver > > solution seems to work on specific problems. Why nobody else could be > > bothered to get off their lazy asses and make a few phone calls > > and write a > > few emails and letters I do not know. Why they consistently > > denied that there > > were patents on making silver colloid and that any current scientific > > research existed showing it worked is another bizarre mystery of the > > colloidal silver cultists. They seemed to all be too busy congratulating > > themselves on how smart and innovative they were, when in reality > > they have > > been giving out loads of bad "information" and creating a silly > > little cult. > > They have found their "miracle" (a word frequently used) in > > silver colloid, > > but their "miracle" could have just as easily been found in > > potato peels by > > naive and ignorant people. > > > > American Silver makes a "ASAP Colloidal Silver Solution" that is the only > > product I am aware of that is standardized, has a patented > > process, and has > > been proven by researchers to do anything at all. > > > > You can try making colloidal silver on your own with distilled > > water, silver > > electrodes, and nine volt batteries; or you can by a proven standardized > > solution that is patented. I've tried several different products > > as well as > > made my own and have yet to find that colloidal silver does > > anything for me, > > my pets, or plants. Still I am hoping we'll know more as the BYU animal > > studies and other research continues. I think the issue is one of > > standardization and method of application as well as knowing and > > proving what > > colloidal silver works and does not work on. This can and will > > eventually be > > worked out in the lab and in studies that are happening now. > > > > People claim colloidal silver kills 650 different types of bacteria and > > pathogens; yet they also claim it does not kill off the natural > > beneficial > > flora that live in the gut and are needed to be there for optimal health. > > Well, newsflash, you can't have it both ways. You can't claim > > that colloidal > > silver selectively kills only the "bad" bacteria and leaves the > > beneficial > > bacteria alone. Antibiotics don't do this, and colloidal silver > > does not do > > it in the lab in petri dishes. So there's an obvious inconsistency in the > > claims made by the people that insist that colloidal silver is a > > "cure" for > > everything from asthma to athlete's foot to body odor to plaque, > > and claims > > that it is "a natural antibiotic" that somehow only kills off the "bad" > > bacteria. So the truth about colloidal silver is going to be gradual and > > probably obscured and maligned to a great extent by these foolish > > and idiotic > > miracle seekers that are lying about aspects of colloidal silver and are > > interested not in any kind of truth, but in something to cling to as a > > "miracle". It's all pretty sickening and dreadful. > > > > I am grateful that there are honest researchers who are working > > hard to give > > us honest answers, and that they are ready and willing to talk to > > people, if > > people would just bother to contact them. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
