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Marshall Dudley wrote: > All those methods are not what is needed. What is needed is for the > governement > to quit suppressing the real energy devices, the ones that don't require any > fuel. That is what is needed. Ie: > > http://www.rense.com/general9/unveil.htm > > Marshall > > Ode Coyote wrote: > > > The basic concept for making alchohol from dead bio materials [yard waste > > etc] is to seal the materials in an airtight steel container and heat till > > all volitiles are gassified, condense the gasses into liquid. > > One byproduct is charcoal which can be further used to supply heat. A > > solar oven arrangement might suppply additional heat. > > I'm not sure of the exact specs on the process but that's the basics. > > The result is "wood alchohol" aka methonal. > > A more effecient method for production for automobiles may be to install a > > wood gas generator as was available on Mercedes cars during ww2 and is in > > common use in the Philippines today on taxis and motor boats. [not very > > convenient, but it works] > > Mother earth news built and ran a Chevey LUV on wood gas. [got about 1 > > mile per pound of wood if I recall] > > > > Some auto makers are offering "multifuel" engines that will burn whatever > > you put into them if it's at least in the same class of fuel [can't run > > peanut oil in a gasoline engine but can in a diesel...can run alchohol or > > alchohol/gasoline mix in a gas engine regardless of ratios] > > Ken > > > > At 09:59 AM 5/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello, All-- > > > > > >I've tried unsuccessfully to find Robert Warren of the California Alcohol > > >Fuel Producers' Assn., who had a super high efficiency distiller > > >guaranteed to make 5 gal. of 190 proof "on your first run". It employed > > >special baffles housed in 4" copper tubing configured in a narrow, > > >inverted "U" shape about 5' tall, connecting two reservoirs that sat on > > >the floor. The unit was advertised a defunct solar catalog several years > > >ago. > > > > > >I'll be getting details soon on running such fuels in a 1:4 mixture with > > >WATER...so please let me know of any info about making alcohol from free > > >material such as dead wood or sawdust (I've heard that only malic acid & > > >sugar are required). > > > > > >Regards, > > >Russ Rosser > > >Dietary Minerals: > > >Sea Salt, Seaweed Juice > > >(256) 546-5945, 547-7850 > > >cel: (256) 390-1439 > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sat, 05 May 2001 08:16:40 -0700 Ode Coyote <coy...@alltel.net> writes: > > >> > > >> Methonol can be produced using any biomass resulting in a net > > >> neutral > > >> carbon dioxide production/consumption loop. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > >