Tel,

Does pump come with bubble stone or do you have to attach one?

Vern
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>groucho marxx soda GERD Air Pump


  I use a fish pump to stir CS in the making, it works great !  I get clear CS 
that stays clear , and I have pushed it to 35ppm (hanna meter) and it still is 
the same clarity,   and a good taste.  My normal batch in 2 qt jar is 10 t0 15 
ppm..and it works very well.  Be sure to use a bubble stone on the end  of the 
little hose.. 
  Tel Tofflemire 
  Phoenix, AZ 
  "JD's Nutritelligencia Institute of N.America" wrote: 

      
    I also thought I remember Marx advocating the use of some tap water as a 
starter many moons ago.  I was thinking of using some baking soda in my next 
batch just to see how the production process differs.  Perhaps it will  speed 
up production.  Is it possibile that CO2 from the bicarb may influence the 
production? 

    Has anyone tried "stirring" their CS in production by using an aquarium 
pump to circulate the water?  I had a problem with my 15kv 60milliamp HVAC unit 
creating too much heat at the top of the reaction vessel, with concommitant 
buildup of condensation on the lid (and excess stress to the grommets holding 
my electrode plugs).  The air pump method produces a temperature homogeneous 
product that requires no delays in shutting down to stir.  This system 
dissipates or prevents excessive condensation.  This definitely speeds up the 
process of production for my system.  I am curious about the addition of  
bicarbonate-sodium.  I know some electrode configurations I use produce an 
acidic solution, whereas some do not. 

    I believe I originally ran across the air pump stirring method after 
reading an email from Jon Brooks MD.  Was he the guy who would always add these 
dancing cats or something of the sort to his email postings....and was removed 
from the list after being warned several times?  Anyway, he claimed that his 
extremely low voltage DC (i think it was around 6 to 8 volts if i remember 
correctly) produced excellent CS when bubbled with ambient air via aquarium 
pump.  Dr Jon Brooks had previously proclaimed his faith in an extremely high 
voltage system. (what a flip-flop)  The extremely high voltage system (which 
was supposed to be in line for some type of patent for its unprecendented 
efficacy) utilized a million volts HVAC, which he believed at the time to be 
the Holy Grail of CS.  Apparently the hype failed to yield the hope.  Dr Jon 
Brooks lost faith in the million volt system and embraced the 6 ! or 8 volt DC 
with aquarium pump.  Perhaps someone more technicapable can determine whether 
the air bubbled process produces better performing CS (or perhaps someone 
already has, I have been off the list for a spell).  I simply think it makes my 
process easier, safer, and quicker.  Am I introducing toxic air pollutants into 
my product? (especially in conjunction with 15kvolt 60milliamps AC?) 

    Has anyone experienced  excellent therapeutic benefits with those suffering 
from GERD?  I think that is what they call that gastro esophogeal reflex 
disorder or whatever.  A recent visitor complained of this disorder with a 
history of over a year duration...other family members residing at the same 
locale also suffered.  He consumed approximately 6 ounces of 10 ppm CS produced 
with the 15kvolt system.  Although he was originally quite skeptical, he 
noticed instant relief.  He started consuming small quantities (1-2 ounce) on 
his own every few days after he thought it started to show signs of returning a 
week later.  He insisted that we make enough product to send his mother a half 
gallon (i overheard him tell his mom that he no longer suffered from the GERD 
ever since drinking this silver catalyzed water). 

    jd (please forgive me if i am rehashing old stories) 
      
      
      
     





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