People who have never had sight and gain it later in life cannot distingiush between round and square shapes without touching them. Babies "learn" to see...that is, learn to 'make sense' out of input while the 'hardwire' memory system expands. Their vision is not blurred as some believe, it is simply meaningless. If you show them a ball and let them handle a block, they'll get confused..probably for life. Who can say that what I describe as "red" is the same as what you see? I can call any color red. We can actually see entirely different ways and still agree as long as the mistranslation is consistant.
But just what IS this 'input'? If you become aware of yourself in a dream, who are all those people? Where did that rock come from and why did it hurt when it hit this head? Wait! If this is my head..whos head is it when I'm awake? How do I know I'm awake? [One day, I fell awake] Then I woke up again , once more, again and again and again into [semi] conscious sleep, I suppose. Near death experiences, out of body experiences, are nothing more than the actual 'mind' [not its symbol] releasing its attachment to a given symbolic belief system. There is no life after death because there is no death. Life has been misdefined. Life is an experience within a mentally shared constructed context...a thought... not a state of 'being'. Life [as experienced now] is not something that "is", it's something that's being "done". An object is a symbolic description of an event. There are no nouns, only verbs and adjectives. [Hence, people are not "things" they are descriptions...stories] Be good to the people in your dreams. They are the you, you are seeing from a different point of view outside the perceptual context construct experience...like reading a book for the very first time..that you wrote along with everyone in it. I am more than the character in this movie drama. Actor and amazed audience, both... A frigment of my own infragmentation? [mastermentalbater] ken > >The causes of synesthesia also remain unknown. Some scientists have >suggested that everyone is born synesthetic but that the typical >developmental trajectory results in these highly interconnected brain areas >becoming far more segregated. We do not know why synesthetes retain some of >these anomalous connections. A biological determinant may be partially at >work in certain cases of synesthesia, because the condition tends to run in >families; moreover, nearly six times as many women as men report >synesthesia. Whatever its etiology, synesthesia provides cognitive >neuroscientists with a unique opportunity to learn more about how the brain >creates our perceptual reality. > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ode Coyote" <coy...@alltel.net> >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> >Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:48 PM >Subject: Re: CS>colloidal color > > >> On that note [speaking of snowflakes] >> I once tried using a small amount of H2O2 as a 'starter' to get the >> initial conductivity of DW up. [one teapoon of off the shelf 3% peroxide >to >> 46 oz of water] The result was the unending formation of brilliant silver >> "snowflakes" similar to what you'd find in a paperweight or in metalflake >> paint. The conductivity of the water never exceeded 14us even after many >> many hours. >> For this and other reasons, I suspect that oxygen plays a role in the >> formation of silver crystals altering their shape along with their size >and >> that the reflective or light scattering properties [color] may be related >> to the simultanious relationship of not only size, but the corresponding >> shape of a lattice structure which can be broken down with H2O2. Silver >is >> silver in color, oxygen has no color, yet silver oxides are black. Could >> there be an incomplete oxide?..not so much a 'compound' but more like an >> alloy? >> H2O2 will blast a silver oxide apart..the black on an electrode vanishes >> very quickly. Could it not also be blasting an alloy apart? flake] I >might be >> crazy, but I see a relationship between color, particle [crystal vs >> size and oxygen. >> The crystal shape of pure silver is 'face centered cubic'. Could the >> addition of one or two atoms of oxygen while the crystal is forming ..not >> as an compound so much as an alloy?] change that shape with a >corresponding >> relationship to size and refractive properties? Could a free O1 atom >[from >> the H2O2] tend to scavange the oxygen atom from such a hypothetical alloy >> forming the more stable O2? >> >> It has been my experience that the addition of a small amount of H2O2 to >a >> yellow batch will clear the color from the batch [sometimes to a very >> faint metallic blue tinge if the CS was initially a faint or pale >> yellow..at over 25PPM] I added 8 drops of H2O2 to the 26+ PPM 750ml half >> batch placed near the kitchen window which went deep yellow overnight [the >> other half stored away from cold temperatures is still colorless and >> crystal clear in diffused light] and the color cleared up in about 5 days >> but it is incredibly murky like smoke in a bottle with a massive TE. >> Nothing has settled out. In fact, it looks more like an emulsion than a >> suspension with a "thickness" or viscosity like quality to it that's >> different than water. The PPM as measured with a Dist 1 dropped from 17 to >6. >> >> I have found that fresh heavily ozonated water will sometimes tend to >make >> an initially yellow CS [that is, yellow now, not turning yellow >> later..though it may or may not turn 'more' yellow later on] whereas the >> same water after having been 'vented' for several days does not [left >> loosely capped while bubbles form on the sides of the DW jug] ...all other >> factors being as identical as possible. >> >> Using a high current to electrode surface area ratio makes yellow CS. >> Could it be that oxygen production from the electrode is faster than the >> oxidation rate of that electrode and excess oxygen is 'alloying' with the >> silver crystals as they form from ions? >> Stirring increases the amount of current that can be used and still not >> make yellow CS. Does stirring not only hydrate and isolate ion clusters >> from each other, but also, in effect, increase electrode surface area by >> disrupting a reactive boundary layer? ..and what is there for the silver >to >> react with, but oxygen? >> >> I also find it interesting that crystal clear [colorless but strong] CS >> appears blackish when placed in a milk jug type DW water container while >> DW in the same type jug right next to it has no tint to it at all. [as >> viewed through the container] >> >> ..and..CS that dries on a white surface will stain that surface brown. >> Ken >> >> At 10:55 AM 6/18/02 -0400, you wrote: >> >I have wondered that as well. My suspicion is the particle shape. I >suspect >> >that the mezo may have dense spherical particle, and the cs that is >formed by >> >normal electrolysis methods may be more snow flake shaped. The >resonances >> of a >> >particle will be consistant with the bulk of the metal, which would be >much >> >larger on a spherical particle than on a snowflake, although the >> dimensions of >> >the snowflake could be much larger, whereas the snowflake is made up of >many >> >small particles aggregated together, it's resonance would be more >> consistant with >> >the smaller particles that make the snowflake up.. >> > >> >Marshall >> > >> >Ode Coyote wrote: >> > >> >> I don't believe this to be entirely true. >> >> One can make a completely colorless batch of CS using LVDC that has a >very >> >> bright tyndal effect seen with a laser pointer and read 10 - 16 PPM >with a >> >> meter. >> >> Ions are too small to be lit up by laser light. >> >> Meters don't detect particles. >> >> Lab testing will reveal 25 to 50 PPM total silver content. >> >> I've seen slow run and stirred batches go as high as a 50% ion to >> >> particlulate ratio and still have no color. >> >> I don't know what makes Mesosilver so special so I won't dispute that, >> >> but, in LVDC home brew land, color is an indication of particle size. >My >> >> brown tea went down the drain and this boy went back to the drawing >board. >> >> Unless some care is taken, the particles will not all be the same >size. >> >> Pale yellows and high PPM will indicate the presence of a few larger >> >> particles along with many smaller colorless particles. >> >> >> >> It's been my experience that no two labs return the same results when >it >> >> comes to CS. I've seen error ranges up to +/- 50% >> >> Apparently CS doesn't work like anything else when tested by >instruments >> >> designed to test other substances. >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> At 02:57 PM 6/17/02 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >If it is clear, it is ionic silver, not colloidal silver. Mesosilver >is >> the >> >> >only brown colored silver colloid with nanometer sized particles. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >frank key >> >> > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >From: form...@aol.com >> >> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> >Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:35 PM >> >> >Subject: CS>colloidal color >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Hello, >> >> >I just switched my subscription to this new e-mail so I will have all >> of my >> >> >silver info in one place. >> >> >Does anyone have opinions on color? Some companies say only the >brown >> >> >silver is good,and others say only the totally clear is good and to >NEVER take the brown >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >
