Yes, the grey deposit is the same thing, but, not on a hydrogen bubble. If the deposit is a bit thick, some of it will transfer some to the surface tension of the water as a 'floater' when the electrodes are removed. That can be dipped off with a spoon. Ususally, the rest of it sticks to something else or stays on the electrode, but if some does get into the water, filtering is perfectly OK. A paper towel or coffee filter works just fine. The key is to keep the electrodes wiped off whenever it becomes noticeably thick and don't leave the electrodes in the water after shut down for very long. As soon as the elctricity goes out, it begins to loosen its grip on the electrode. Cleaning the electrodes while everything is still plugged in and running does well. I just wipe the loose stuff off with a piece of paper towel [or sometimes my shirt tail or squeegee it off with a pinch o the fingers.] ken
At 12:00 AM 7/23/02 +0000, you wrote: >Is the grey deposit the same thing?? If it is not good to filter, what do I >do then? I'm not interested to drink this "muddy mixture" from the bottom of >the jar! What am I doing wrong? Too fast stirring? >Sylvie > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Ode Coyote <coyote...@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>grey fuzzies >Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:13:24 -0400 > > The grey fuzzies are a semi solid structure forming out of silver >particles being trapped on the surface tension of hydrogen bubbles that >have grown too slowly to bubble off before being stabilized by the coating. >As the bubble becomes coated, it becomes semi conductive and forms another >slow bubble to become coated on top of itself..on and on in a never ending >feedback loop. Wiping the fuzzies off breaks up the feedback loop, but it >might start over again until water conductivity is high enough to draw the >set current. > Excess water current pressure is one factor that leads to the formation of >these small bubbles. Another is too little current draw from ultra pure >[highly resistive] water. Stirring too fast also runs a greater number of >ions and particles past the electrode to be attracted by it, further >exasperating the conditions of the loop. > The slower you run the motor, the less stable it is. It may stall out at >very slow speeds. So, shortening the stirrer allows for speeding up the >motor without increasing stir rate. It doesn't take much to move that water >and it should not move very fast at all. You can put a small bit of paper >in the container to track the water currents. It should move sort of lazily >around in an inverting spiral. > One would think that running the stir rate really fast would blow the >bubbles off, but apparently it only causes them to stick better on the >surface that faces the direction of the water current and further >compresses the bubble to keep it small. [The fuzzies grow into the >direction of the water flow.] > If you find yourself using ultra pure water, you can let the generator run >without the stirrer until a localized area of conductivity [ion cloud] >forms between the electrodes, then distribute that with the stirrer to >bring the total conductivity up...or seed the water with a previous batch. > Heating the water some also increases initial conductivity but heating too >hot causes particles to collide with enough force that they can agglomerate >right away. > >On a good note, once the electrodes become pitted and rough from use, the >hydrogen bubbles are formed in more localized an area centering on the pits >[or, perhaps between them] and grow and bigger faster with fewer of >them..and bubble off better. > > Formation of the grey fuzzies using pitted electrodes is rare. >So, don't polish the electrodes, Just wipe them off. > Ken > > >At 06:36 PM 7/21/02 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >> From: "sylvie hargraft" <sylviehargr...@hotmail.com> > > > >> > >> 1. What is causing the formation of grey fuzzies on the cathode?? > >Hi Sylvie, get the instructions out of the waste basket and read. > > > >> 2. How do I know what to regulate the speed of the constant stirrer of >my > >> Ole Bob to? > > > >Get the speed down to something that you can count would be good, > >that is if you haven't trimmed anything off of the stirrer. > > > >Jack > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > >
