Dear QEcara,

It is obvious that you have not read the quality information found at
the link I supplied:
http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/comp-anat/comp-anat-1a.shtml

I suggest you read it all, as you seem to have taken the vege psuedo
science to heart. All your questions will be answered:

" I mean, if that doesn't make sense to you, consider our intestinal
track.  IT's way too long to pass things like meat along in a timely
fashion."
Our intestinal tract is shorter comparatively to nearly all other
primates, even the omnivores among them. Its length and form places us
directly in the meat and fruit eating box.

"Meat is rotting in our body, i.e. powerful, overwhelming, legendary
flatuleance is the result of it."
Our GI tract regulates the passage of different types of food. Poor
value food, grains, legumes, nuts, vegetables and so on, which are up
to about 80% digestible, are passed though quickly. High value foods
like meat, which are over 90% digestible, are passed through more
slowly.
Flatulence is the result of an abnormal population of bacteria in the
colon.

"Most people cannot digest meats properly.  They don't reap the
negatives till they go past 30 years old.  Youth compensates for many
an ill.  The meat problem shows up later in life."
Meat is one of the easiest of foods to digest. Problems with HCL
production (too little) probably comes about because of the processed
crap we eat, or from not eating meat.

Consider this:

Some of the physiological evidence that humans are adapted to a diet
that includes substantial animal products (fauna; i.e., we are
faunivores) is:


Heme iron receptor sites. Our intestines contain receptor sites
specifically for the absorption of heme iron, which is found in
nutritionally significant quantities only in animal foods. This is
strong evidence of evolutionary physiological adaptation to animal
foods in the human diet.

B-12 considerations. Humans need vitamin B-12, but all current
evidence suggests that plant foods were not a reliable, year-round
source during human evolution. Geophagy and coprophagy are not
plausible sources, leaving animal foods (including insects) as the
sole reliable, plausible source.

Taurine synthesis. Relative efficiency of synthesis: the synthesis of
taurine is much less efficient in humans than in herbivorous animals.

Beta-carotene to vitamin A conversion. Relative efficiency of
conversion: the conversion of beta-carotene to vitamin A is much less
efficient in humans than in herbivorous animals.

Sufficiency and balance of EFAs. Common, staple plant foods generally
do not contain the right "balance" of EFAs, and production of EPA, DHA
from plant source fats may be inefficient. It's hard to understand
why--if humans really are natural vegans--the "optimal" balance of
EFAs is apparently so difficult to achieve with plant foods.

Bioavailability issues. Relative efficiency of
digestion/bioavailability: Although animal foods are generally easier
for any mammal to digest than plant foods for structural reasons
(e.g., cell wall considerations), the fact that many staple plant
foods contain high levels of factors that inhibit the human digestive
process suggests a long evolutionary dependence on animal foods as
major nutrient sources. Examples of the relative bioavailability are
as follows.

Iron in animal foods is more bioavailable than in plant foods.

Zinc is more bioavailable in animal foods than in plant foods.

Animal protein is digested more efficiently than plant protein.

Analysis of bitter taste thresholds by Glendinning [1994] shows that
the human bitter taste threshold is in the same range as faunivores.

Taken individually, many of the above points are equivocal. When
considered collectively, however, they strongly point to animal foods
having an important role in the human diet during evolution.
Also, two important hypotheses relating diet and evolution were
discussed here:


The incidence of hereditary hemochromatosis, a relatively common (in
certain populations) "iron overload" disease, may be an example of a
partial genetic adaptation that promotes survival in the
high-carbohydrate, lower-animal-food diets of agriculture, by
increasing iron absorption.

The carnivore-connection hypothesis of Miller and Colagiuri explains
the high incidence of NIDDM in former (and only recently Westernized)
hunter-gatherer populations as being due to insulin resistance; i.e.,
their insulin resistance level has not yet begun to adapt to the
high-carbohydrate diets of agriculture.

Specific concerns for fruitarians. Additionally, specific hypotheses
regarding fruitarianism were presented:

Heightened B-12 risk. Strict fruitarianism might accelerate vitamin
B-12 deficiency by decreasing production of gastric acid. This may be
a low-risk issue as it is very rare for anyone to strictly follow a
fruitarian diet long-term; i.e., "cheating" and binge-eating are
common on the diet.

Low zinc and feelings of "euphoria." Zinc deficiency is a plausible
potential explanation for the "euphoric" mental feeling reported by
some fruitarians (also an explanation for the loss of libido reported
by some).

Diabetes-like symptoms. The carnivore-connection hypothesis of Miller
and Colagiuri might explain the high incidence of diabetes-like
symptoms among fruitarians, and the extremely high failure rate among
those who try the diet. It seems plausible, given the predominant
picture presented by the anecdotal record, that most people are not
genetically adapted to a diet in which (approximately) 75+% of
calories come from sugar, a simple carbohydrate that requires insulin
for metabolism.

Regards
Ivan.

PS further discussion should perhaps be moved to the of topic list.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 6:39 a.m.
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects yeah but SILVER?????



UMMM, I don't know where you guys are..what makes everyone so down
right combative but let's look at how many grinders we have.  Yes, for
the most part, comparatively speaking, out teeth are grinders...they
are flat comparatively speaking.  Look at a cat's teeth or a dogs and
you'll get the idea.

I mean, people...as Rodney King said, "Can't we all just get along?"
I mean, if that doesn't make sense to you, consider our intestinal
track.  IT's way too long to pass things like meat along in a timely
fashion.  Meat is rotting in our body, i.e. powerful, overwhelming,
legendary flatuleance is the result of it.  But stomach acid tells the
story best.  Most people cannot digest meats properly.  They don't
reap the negatives till they go past 30 years old.  Youth compensates
for many an ill.  The meat problem shows up later in life.

Relax.  It must be very hot and sticky where y'all live.  Let's
lighten up and try and do some good here.  Must be all that sickness,
mixed with heat and probably old age?  Take a chill pill.


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