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Hi Ivan, Thanks for your information. I must admit to my ignorance of chemistry. My knowledge is more in the electronic field and others. What I don't understand is why I have never been able to dissociate gold atoms using LVDC and others say they have. Do you think that bubbling or stirring may prevent the formation of oxygen around the gold which protects it from disintegration, thereby allowing dissociation? Thanks for your input. Wish I was more intelligent in that area. Regards, Trem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Anderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: RE: CS>CS RE: Colloidal Gold > Trem, > > There is no reason at all to suppose that gold will not reduce at the > anode (as I have said more than once in the past). It is just like any > other metal, excepting that it hangs on to its electrons with greater > energy than any other. This is why it will not dissolve in seawater, > there is no other metal strong enough to remove the gold electrons. > Gold has a standard reduction potential of 1.5V above the reduction > potential of hydrogen, so any applied voltage of about 3V and above > should be enough to start the process. The trouble is of course that > the production of oxygen gas is probably just slightly less than that > of gold (1.45V) and it is quite likely that one would quite likely > produce a lot of O2 in preference to gold ions. > Another fact to note, is that gold is most stable as the Au+++ cation, > and therefore requires three times the charge and three times the > time, compared to silver. > > I have not undertaken any experiments with LVDC gold production > myself, mainly because I do not trust the ingestion of gold ions to be > safe (there is some info that suggests this) as opposed to gold > colloids, the latter which cannot be made by the LVDC method. > > Regards > Ivan. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Trem [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 11:21 a.m. > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: CS>CS RE: Colloidal Gold > > > > > > Hi Jannette, > > > > Verrrry inteerestinggg. > > > > I'm at a loss to see how this can work. A gold electrode > > just does not > > disintegrate using low voltage DC electrolysis. At least > > it never has for > > me. Gold coins lost at sea for hundreds of years come up > > looking the same > > as the day they were submerged and they are continually > > being exposed to > > electrolysis. > > > > And of course the silver electrode has to be the CATHODE > > (negative polarity) > > or it will be the one to deteriorate if you use DC. The > > anode is the one > > that releases particles. Did you mistype the polarity in your post? > > > > Quite a mystery to me. Do you know how much current is flowing? > > > > Sure you're not using their HVAC model? Apparently it puts > > out 10,000 VAC > > but no current is mentioned on their website. > > > > Trem > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jannette McKoy-Abel" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:56 PM > > Subject: Re: CS>CS RE: Colloidal Gold > > > > > > > Trem, > > > Color: It has varied from clear (5-10PPM) to pale violet > > (10-15PPM) to > > ruby > > > violet (15+PPM). The time has been from 5 - 71/2 hours. > > > > > > Voltage: 0-52 + Volt Power System 0-3000ma - constant current > > > > > > Electrodes: Both immersed in 16oz. distilled water, with > > gold cathode and > > > silver anode 5" long spaced 1" apart. I have a 2-port > > system, so I make 2 > > > batches at once. > > > > > > Hope this info is useful, > > > Jannette > > > > > > > Hi Jannette, > > > > > > > > What color is the CG? > > > > > > > > How many volts are you using...that is: are you using > > HVAC (10,000 VAC > > or > > > > so) or are you using LVDC (under 100 volts DC)? > > > > > > > > How much current? > > > > > > > > Are both electrodes immersed? How far? What is the spacing? > > > > > > > > Are they both gold? > > > > > > > > Thanks for answering. I'm sure there are many > > inquiring minds that want > > > to > > > > know. > > > > > > > > Trem > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002 > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of > > colloidal silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > >
