This is great for you guys selling 1000s of gal of CS, Do you really think I
will use up the 6 inches of#12 wire in my life time? for my own uses. (I am 67)
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ode Coyote
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Mailbox reply
Edge discharge is easy to see. Just compare the mist as it comes off
the electrode edge with that which comes off the rest of the electrode.
Electroplaters attach bleed off wires to prevent burnt and grainy looking
thick accumulations of plating on edges so they can still use enough
current to reach inside the holes. Most electroplating electrodes come as
flat bars. They erode into a V shape with rounded edges also becoming
sorter and shorter till they have a big fat top and a pointy round
bottom...points go faster than the edges.
Plain wire with the end exposed will sharpen into a point but the wire
gets pretty darned thin before the wire actually gets shorter.
The looped wire with no ends in the water seem to go away pretty evenly
retaining full length till they get too flimsy to handle.
You would think that the current desity would go up as the wires get
thinner, but they also get pitted and the pits increase surface area.
I don't recall seeing a used up electroplate electrode bar with pits. [I
was an electroplater long ago..copper, zinc and nickel..some gold.]
Opposite sides of a flat bar are further apart than the sides facing. Ion
discharge from opposite faces have to go around the bar on a longer path.
Longer distance equals higher resistance...fewer ions. [also lower currrent
density]
ode [aka ken]
At 02:54 AM 5/19/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59136.html
>
>Another thought. The edge effect may be much like skin effect on a
>conductor at high frequencies. In this case, the dimensions and shape of
>the conductor influence the results.
>
>It would be nice to compare the cell resistance using two 1/4 inch flat
>strips 0.013 inches thick and 4 inches wetted depth with 12 ga wire rods
>also with a 4 inch wetted depth.
>
>I have a 2D modeller I use for high frequency and thermal resistance
>work. It can be used for magnetic fields, and also basic electrostatics.
>
>Pure water has a dielectric constant that varies a bit with temperature,
>but we can use the value 80. Please see "DIELECTRIC CONSTANT REFERENCE
>GUIDE"
>
> http://www.asiinstr.com/dc1.html
>
>A value of 80 is extremely high compared to most insulators. It would be
>interesting to see if the modeller can tell us how the field changes when
>the dielectric constant changes from air to water.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Mike Monett
>
>
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