Hi Mike! Well said...
Potassium Hydroxide can be used to raise the PH of a CS without due harm. Hydronium can be used to adjust to the acidic side ( ie for skin care products, where a more acidic ph may be desired ). Of course, I would never use either substance before or during production, only after! Best Regards, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. G. Devour" <mdev...@eskimo.com> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: CS>Additives to CS production... > To Nenah and others discussing this: > > It kinda surprises me that it has come up. > > Back in the early days we were taught to use a "pinch" of salt (NaCl) > or a drop or two of salt solution in our brew vessels as a "starter" to > get the process going more quickly. Baking soda was also a suggested > alternative. > > The result was a process that worked at high current and very rapidly, > producing large particles that often settled out after a few days or > weeks. In only took a few minutes to produce a batch, and your > electrodes never had a chance to collect any "fluff." The recipes you > found online commonly stated that you would get about "1ppm per > minute." > > It was quite exciting to watch, in fact, with all the bubbling and > whisps of stuff coming off the electrodes. > > A lot of people used this method for a long time, and some still do. It > was the first process I learned, and I used it for a year or two. It > worked and was part and parcel of the popularization of Colloidal > Silver in the modern era. > > Generally, people started moving towards using only distilled water > when they began examining the particle size issue. > > There was some concern that the larger particles presented an increased > risk of argyria, though that effect was never demonstrated. (Of course, > now there's Stan, the Senate candidate.) > > There was also concern that the use of a "starter" produced other > compounds (like silver chloride or carbonate), at least in the early > stages of the process, that could be harmful in and of themselves. This > was never proved to be a real concern, given the low toxicity and > concentration of the likely by-products. (Except in Stan's case, of > course! <sigh>) > > Nonetheless, people started working to understand the process in pure > distilled water, leading to countless experiments in current limiting, > other voltage ranges, AC vs. DC, polarity switching, and so on. > > All this is somewhat apart from the issue of pH. Adding buffers to the > CS *after* production will still effect the ionic portion, likely > leading to some colorful displays along the way as your silver ions > precipitate and agglomerate into particles of silver salts. > > Certainly worth study. Perhaps a way can be found to balance the pH > without compromising the silver component? > > One other thing I can suggest, if you're interested in the utility of > these methods, is that *very low* concentrations of production > additives were never explored to my satisfaction. They *might* prove > beneficial to ease-of-production and reproduceability with minimal > impact on safety or effectiveness. Who knows, eh? > > For the sake of the newcomers and lurkers, please understand that for > now, at least, standard practice is to use only distilled water. > > That's your bed-time story for today. G'night boys and girls! <grin> > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@eskimo.com ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 09/02/2003