Re: CS>tea tree oil and ozone - REBUTTAL to ozone's toxicity

[Ode Coyote]

There's no debate that ozone is an oxidizer of organic materials..ie 'burns' them and produces byproducts.

Sometimes burning things a little is more therapeutic than not burning them, some byproducts may be relatively beneficial and some toxic compounds can be neutralized by burning them, but do ozone and you WILL wind up minus some tissue..gauranteed.
It's like chemo where the idea is to stress all the tissues and hopefully the weakest ones die off first without killing too many strong ones.
Just enough does a job 'for' you..too much does a job 'on' you.
It all depends on what you're trying to do, how, on what and how fast.



Toxicity is always relative. Water can be a deadly toxin.
Xtacy [the drug] is not a deadly toxin but it supresses the thirst reponse and people die of over or under hydration. It's the water that kills.

Ozone is ozone is ozone like ions are ions. You can't make good or bad O3 or half an ion.

The only possible difference is amount, environment and application.
It is possible to make toxic oxidized compounds...but that is no longer ozone.

Ozone at levels you can't even detect WILL eventually eat the tires off your car and the rubber cord off your drill. I've had to replace many drill and saw cord for that reason. But, they don't heal like people do.

If you burn your grass with a flame thrower and manage to not cook the roots too much, the surface baddies will die and the grass grows back greener. The grass wins.

I can imagine where ozone could stimulate a healing by telling the body in no uncertain terms that it's time to do so. Many responses depend on crossing tolerance thresholds. [At what point is the bathwater too hot to stay in? The parameters of decision vary with the individuals tolerance. Any action depends on a decision to act.]

PS, that irritation of the lungs when ozone is inhaled is dying lung tissue. It probably grows back, maybe better and cleaner than before, but caution is paramount. The stuff can also kill or badly damage you pretty quick.
Ozone kills living organics..it oxidizes dead and living organics without prejudice [period] Useful? Maybe. But it is by no means a benign substance.
The ONLY question is, does it kill the badies faster than you grow back the goodies? If it does, you win. If it doesn't....
Concentration and application strategy makes the difference.

Ode

At 05:26 PM 11/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:
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>Subject: Re: CS>tea tree oil and ozone
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>> Ozone is toxic to plants and animals, including humans. The toxic dose
>> is higher than most ozone generating air filters. But the problem is
>> that even at low concentrations it can be adsorbed by sheet rock and
>> concentrate there, where it can being to out gas and affect those in the
>> room. Some treatments involve removing plants, animals and people from
>> the rooms, these involve higher concentration of ozone and these are at
>> higher risk of adsorping into the sheet rock.
>>
>> As well even in very low concentrations ozone can combine with other
>> chemicals and form more toxic compounds. It depends on what is in the
>> air you are breathing with the low concentrations of ozone.
>>
>> The bottom line is that ozone is not a safe substance to play around
>> with if you do not know exactly what is in the air and the concentration
>> of ozone in that air.
>>
>> This information is not widely acknowledged or even known. Most people
>> selling ozone generating machines or services just go by what the
>> manufacturers tell them. They do not have the technical training to
>> check it out for themselves. Nor do they even know it is something that
>> needs to be investigated.
>>
>> Garnet
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>Garnet,
>I generally love your posts and respect your considerable knowledge, but I have
>to vehemently disagree with your stance on ozone.
>
>Time constraints prevent me from writing as much as I'd like. But briefly, if
>ozone were "toxic," it would not be used as an approved and SUCCESSFUL medical
>therapy in Europe and other locations.
>
>I have medical grade ozone equipment obtained from Plasmafire in Canada and use
>it for many purposes. When ozone is inhaled through olive oil (or tea tree and
>other essential oils), an entirely new compound is created. THIS IS VERY HEALING
>FOR THE LUNGS. Insufflated through the ears, ozone helps clear sinus infections,
>ear infections, and the brain fog of candida. Insufflated through the vagina,
>ozone gets into the lymph system and helps clear out toxins.
>
>Ozone scavenges toxins. In the proper amounts it does not harm normal, healthy
>tissue. The myth that ozone is toxic is based on studies done over 50 years ago
>that never distinguished between PURE ozone and CONTAMINATED ozone -- i.e.,
>ozone that was **combined with pollutants.** The pollutants were produced when
>ozone was made improperly, period. And, it was the pollutants that were toxic,
>NOT THE OZONE ITSELF. There is some great documentation about this in Appendix A
>of my new book on sauna therapy.
>
>Ozone must be used properly and in the right concentrations. Of course it will
>irritate your lungs if it's at too high a concentration -- but that doesn't mean
>ozone is toxic. Carrot juice will turn your skin orange if you drink IT at too
>high a concentration; but it doesn't mean that carrot juice is poisonous, it
>just means that you need to know how much to ingeset!
>
>Ozone has proven tremendously healing for me and for many, many others with whom
>I have personal contact. I urge the more openminded of you to see for yourself
>what this amazing therapy can do. For more information, you can join the Oxyplus
>list at Yahoo.
>
>Nenah
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>Nenah Sylver, PhD
>Holistic health products, supplements and services
>http://www.nenahsylver.com
>Author of newly released
>The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
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