Mike Monett wrote: > Re: CS>Silver-Colloids responds > From: Marshall Dudley > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:12:37 > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79030.html > > > How on earth do you reach that conclusion. I have already outlined > > how ionic silver most likely works when ingested, silver hydroxide > > -> silver chloride -> (maybe ammonial silver complexes) -> silver > > particles. > > Marshall, > > Welcome back. We missed you. Some questions for reference: > > 1. Has Frank responded to your analysis on 26 Jan 2005, showing the > solubility of AgCl in blood is 0.9ppm? > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m77225.html
Only a few minutes ago, he claims that the paper is flawed, and the results do not show up in any books. I asked how they are flawed, and where there is any proof they are flawed, and gave him a book published in 1975 that has the same equation in it. > > > 2. Please show the balanced equations for converting Ag(+) to Ag as > you describe above. There are several routes to get there. But the simplest is the simple photo development process of the reduction of AgCl to silver metal. That is can be done cannot be disputed, if it were not possible than argyria and photography would not exist. But the equation is pretty simple Ag(+) Cl(-) -> Ag + Cl The electron from the Cl goes to the Ag, and cancels the +, making them both elemental. > > > 3. I use sublingual absorption, which I find to be much more > effective. How does this affect your analysis? Not sure. If one has no salt in their mouth, then the silver could cross the barrier and go into the blood, becoming AgCl, at least temporarily. Solubililty would not be an issue with the large volume of blood involved under normal circumstances. But if there is any saliva in the mouth at all, most certainly AgCl will be formed in the mouth, and we would be back to the solubility limits of AgCl in water with a small amount of chloride present, probably with a solubility of less than .89 ppm due to the common ion effect. > > > 4. In http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79033.html, you state > > > Yep, done that myself, the black powder is finely divided silver > > which will be black. This can be easily confirmed by applying > > pressure to the powder, and since silver is very mallable, the > > powder will be forced together forming a larger particle which > > will regain it's silver appearance. > > What are the balanced equations for converting Ag(+) to Ag in dw? Ag(+) + (electron-) = Ag That is the Ag(+) contacts the cathode, and picks up an electron being supplied by the power supply or battery and becomes a silver atom. > > > 4. You state: > > > Yep, done that myself. As I have reported before H2O2 will oxidize > > silver metal producing silver oxide which dissolves quite readily. > > What are the balanced equations? H2O2 + 2Ag -> 2AgO + H2O The Ag2O then becomes either 2Ag(+) + O(--) in solution when it dissociates. > > > > No, what appears on the cathode is silver metal being precipitated > > out. > > > When current is applied to pure water the Ag+ goes toward the > > cathode and a hydrogen is released at the cathode and the > > remaining OH- goes toward the anode. At that point you have silver > > hydroxide in the water. > > > As electrolysis continues then some of the OH- makes it to the > > anode, and some of the Ag+ makes it to the cathode. At the cathode > > the Ag+ gains an electron and precipitates out as very finely > > grained particles which will be black. At the anode the OH- will > > combine with a second OH-, lose two electrons to the anode, and > > produce H2O and O. The O being very reactive will tend to react > > with the silver making a tan colored silver oxide at the anode. > > Marshall, I think you will find it impossible to write balanced > equations describing the above. But try to surprise me:) > > I'll leave the rest for when you have time to answer the above. Actually I was working on that from last friday when I accidentally hit the send button, thinking it was another reply I had just done. I am still working on that. Marshall > > > Mike Monett > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
