I didn't write that.

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

> Marshall Wrote:
>
> "The number of credible studies that disprove this
> claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies
> demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria,
> tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus,
> Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis
> bacteria and anthrax."
>
> I think Trich is actually a protozoan.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:44 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>CS effectiveness
>
> marmar...@aol.com wrote:
> I am posting a response from another list I'm on,
> which rebutted my statements regarding Colloidal
> Silver (on that list).
>
>  >>When some friends of mine found out I was using CS
> with success on some tough problems, they gently took
> me aside and cleared up some misconceptions. Because
> they both worked at MIT, and the wife went on to teach
> at Princeton (electron microscopy in determining cell
> response to disease) and the husband is now head of a
> company developing carbon nanosphere technology as a
> step beyond MRI imaging, I take their understanding as
> sound! >>
>
> As most of us on this list have discovered,
> impressive-sounding credentials don't guarantee
> accuracy or credibility.
>
> >> CS, despite being called "nature's antibiotic", has
> no effect on fungal, baterial or viral pathogens.
>
> I have a copy of Brigham Young Universities studies
> that show differently.
>
> Marshall responded:
> Where did they get that idea. Did they run tests, and
> if so what was the protocol?  I personally had tests
> run at University of Tennessee and determined that it
> has a lot of effect.  Others have run tests and many
> of them are posted on the net, and none of them ever
> showed no effect.
>
> >> The mechanism by which CS "works" is this: Silver
> (and also gold, which you can also buy as a colloid)
> are inert metals as far as the body is concerned - no
> reaction. When a virus, for instance, enters a cell,
> the mitochondria of the cell are attracted to it and
> attach to the virus. The virus borrows the DNA from
> the mitochondria  - it's necessary for the virus to do
> so in order to reproduce. When silver is present in
> the cells in the particle size that mimics a virus
> (and this is why particle size is very important) the
> mitochondria attach to the silver and become "busy" -
> they can't attach to the virus. Hence, virus can't
> reproduce and so die. Less virus present, less
> inflammatory response from the body. There's no
> inherent "immunity" with silver itself, and it doesn't
> "kill" virus, bacteria, or fungus, but it maintains
> the integrity of the cell by keeping it "busy" or
> "plugged". >>
>
> Marshall responds:
> Where did this information come from? Never heard it
> before. Is there any experimental evidence to back it
> up?  If it doesn't kill bacteria, then why does every
> test I know of that has ever been run on it with
> bacteria show a high or 100% kill rate?
>
> >>Silver doesn't have any effect on a pathogen, so it
> can't "suffocate" or "kill" it. But the above
> explanation does lend itself to the idea of building
> an "immunity", although I doubt a scientist would
> agree with that interpretation. >>
>
> The number of credible studies that disprove this
> claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies
> demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria,
> tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus,
> Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis
> bacteria and anthrax. See:
> http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2003/04/c7099.html
>
> http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2002/16/c1055.html
>
> http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2003/24/c3100.html
>
> http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section1.htm
>
> >>The recommended 8-10 ppm is in line with what they
> know about this action - you don't want too much or
> too little. You do need the volume that dilution to
> 8-10ppm creates in order to disperse it through the
> body - because a percentage of it is going to be lost
> in the digestive tract or otherwise eliminated. If
> making your own, there are some issues - if you don't
> have rather sophisticated equipment you can't be sure
> of the particle size or concentration. >>
>
> The success of folks with MS and cancer by drinking
> copious quantities (16-24 oz/day) negates the idea
> that one must be careful to take just the right
> amount. Roger Altman's study demonstrated the
> non-accumulation of properly made CS, thereby
> establishing that the body simply disposes of unused
> CS.
>
> >>Their feeling is that what you are making is
> actually silver salts, not colloidal silver. >>
>
> Marshall responded:
> That is impossible.  A salt requires an anion, and
> there is none present in distilled water. These guys
> need to study chemistry.
>
> When supposedly knowledgeable people make statements
> that are poor science or pseudo-science, it becomes
> hard to take them seriously.
>
> >>I said - "and yet it works for the people who make
> it" and they said that sufficient amounts in an
> adequate particle size (through volume) could still be
> getting where they need to go. >>
>
> This supports Altman's findings that there is no
> dangerous amount.
>
> For someone to make claims about CS without being able
> to substantiate those claims with hard, legitimate
> research is as illegitimate as those folks who claim
> CS cures everything
>
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