Hi Marshall, Sorry for the slo-mo response.
Thank you for the correction. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS effectiveness I didn't write that. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: > Marshall Wrote: > > "The number of credible studies that disprove this > claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies > demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria, > tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus, > Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis > bacteria and anthrax." > > I think Trich is actually a protozoan. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:44 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>CS effectiveness > > marmar...@aol.com wrote: > I am posting a response from another list I'm on, > which rebutted my statements regarding Colloidal > Silver (on that list). > > >>When some friends of mine found out I was using CS > with success on some tough problems, they gently took > me aside and cleared up some misconceptions. Because > they both worked at MIT, and the wife went on to teach > at Princeton (electron microscopy in determining cell > response to disease) and the husband is now head of a > company developing carbon nanosphere technology as a > step beyond MRI imaging, I take their understanding as > sound! >> > > As most of us on this list have discovered, > impressive-sounding credentials don't guarantee > accuracy or credibility. > > >> CS, despite being called "nature's antibiotic", has > no effect on fungal, baterial or viral pathogens. > > I have a copy of Brigham Young Universities studies > that show differently. > > Marshall responded: > Where did they get that idea. Did they run tests, and > if so what was the protocol? I personally had tests > run at University of Tennessee and determined that it > has a lot of effect. Others have run tests and many > of them are posted on the net, and none of them ever > showed no effect. > > >> The mechanism by which CS "works" is this: Silver > (and also gold, which you can also buy as a colloid) > are inert metals as far as the body is concerned - no > reaction. When a virus, for instance, enters a cell, > the mitochondria of the cell are attracted to it and > attach to the virus. The virus borrows the DNA from > the mitochondria - it's necessary for the virus to do > so in order to reproduce. When silver is present in > the cells in the particle size that mimics a virus > (and this is why particle size is very important) the > mitochondria attach to the silver and become "busy" - > they can't attach to the virus. Hence, virus can't > reproduce and so die. Less virus present, less > inflammatory response from the body. There's no > inherent "immunity" with silver itself, and it doesn't > "kill" virus, bacteria, or fungus, but it maintains > the integrity of the cell by keeping it "busy" or > "plugged". >> > > Marshall responds: > Where did this information come from? Never heard it > before. Is there any experimental evidence to back it > up? If it doesn't kill bacteria, then why does every > test I know of that has ever been run on it with > bacteria show a high or 100% kill rate? > > >>Silver doesn't have any effect on a pathogen, so it > can't "suffocate" or "kill" it. But the above > explanation does lend itself to the idea of building > an "immunity", although I doubt a scientist would > agree with that interpretation. >> > > The number of credible studies that disprove this > claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies > demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria, > tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus, > Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis > bacteria and anthrax. See: > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2003/04/c7099.html > > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2002/16/c1055.html > > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2003/24/c3100.html > > http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section1.htm > > >>The recommended 8-10 ppm is in line with what they > know about this action - you don't want too much or > too little. You do need the volume that dilution to > 8-10ppm creates in order to disperse it through the > body - because a percentage of it is going to be lost > in the digestive tract or otherwise eliminated. If > making your own, there are some issues - if you don't > have rather sophisticated equipment you can't be sure > of the particle size or concentration. >> > > The success of folks with MS and cancer by drinking > copious quantities (16-24 oz/day) negates the idea > that one must be careful to take just the right > amount. Roger Altman's study demonstrated the > non-accumulation of properly made CS, thereby > establishing that the body simply disposes of unused > CS. > > >>Their feeling is that what you are making is > actually silver salts, not colloidal silver. >> > > Marshall responded: > That is impossible. A salt requires an anion, and > there is none present in distilled water. These guys > need to study chemistry. > > When supposedly knowledgeable people make statements > that are poor science or pseudo-science, it becomes > hard to take them seriously. > > >>I said - "and yet it works for the people who make > it" and they said that sufficient amounts in an > adequate particle size (through volume) could still be > getting where they need to go. >> > > This supports Altman's findings that there is no > dangerous amount. > > For someone to make claims about CS without being able > to substantiate those claims with hard, legitimate > research is as illegitimate as those folks who claim > CS cures everything > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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