But what is going on immediately after the CS is made?

It is you, Ode, who insists that there is something superior,
or at least different with freshly made CS as opposed to CS 
that has been sitting around for 14 days...

Bob, when did you do the spectrophotometer reading to determine 
ionic content?  Was it immediately after it was made, or after a delay

of days?

Dan



Ode wrote:

##  Try that on different batch sizes.

 The final reading is pretty much 'right on' regardless, but the
initial
meter reading as compared to the final will differ with batch volume.

The bigger the batch, the more the uS/cm meter reading drops over time
down to a close one to one number correspondence with spectro tests.

It was actually you, Ole Bob, that clued me in on that a few years
back
by testing silver that other people had made with my generators and
reporting back with a lot of questions I didn't know the answers to.

..something wasn't adding up and I ate a big helping of crow when I
finally figured out what it was. [Had to re-write everything]

 It turned out to be the phenomenon you just described with a volume
related addition to your observations.

 Every generator I've used does that.  Everyone denies it. [except
me?]

 I can see why.  It complicates PPM predictions like crazy and
customers
like things to be simple, even if they aren't.


On the other hand, knowing what combo does what allows different
predictable results using the same equipment without having to do any
adjusting. 

Use it this way, it does this. Use it that way, it does that...with
ways
to get around this AND that to wind up at ANY desired spot, if so
desired. 

BUT, if the silver water is channeled though a small space with just a
little heat as it's being made, it does it a lot less, along with less
to
almost no difference between batch sizes.

 Typically, CS made to 20 uS/cm drops back to 17-18 uS/cm when made
that
way in both pint and quart batches..while usually, a pint will go from
20
uS/cm to 11-12 uS/cm and a quart will go to 7-8 uS/cm, both closely
equaling PPM as per spectro tests.

What this "channelling" does [I think] is to help the ions find their
anions as the silver water is being made, rather than having to find
them
over the course of many many hours 'after' the CS has been made.

Only after ions and anions get married and the honeymoon is over, does
a
meter reading reflect PPM.

..call it a shotgun barrel wedding and No-Tell-Motel?

 BUT but, too 'much' heat will make it all go yellow at those
concentrations now and then.

 Why the non "channeled" volumetric difference exists is still a
mystery
to me. [Is, is is and why don't matter]

Ode

>>>>

 Now for something about making your silver solutions.

Using DWs with a conductance of 0.60 uS/cm and stopping at a current
density of 2.5 mA/sq.in. the final conductance was 16.2 uS.cm and
after
24 hours it was 14.7 us/cm and 14 days later it is 9.8 uS/cm.

The ionic content as measured by my spectrophotometer is 8.8 PPM. If
you
subtract the original conductance then the actual conductance at day
14
is 9.2 which is remarkably close to the actual ionic content.

It happens all! of the time.

"Ole Bob"

  

  


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