Re: CS>AIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/

[Jonathan B. Britten]

List,

Regarding the earlier thread on AIDS, the current issue of Harper's has 
a must-read essay:

Out of Control:   AIDS and the corruption of medical science.

There is no live link to the whole article, I think.    Here is an 
edited link:

http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2006/AIDS-Medical-Corruption1mar06.htm

This is one of the best general science articles I have ever read.

The persecution of the brilliant scientist who tried to show the 
dubiousness of the HIV hypothesis is beyond outrageous; it is an 
indictment of the entire American system of scientific grants-getting.  
 Deeply disturbing and essential reading.

It starts with what amounts to a medical murder of a woman in my former 
hometown, Memphis.   Your blood will boil.

BTW, the essay lends support to the idea that some kind of toxicity is 
the root cause of AIDS, and that HIV is a hitch-hiker virus.  NB there 
are many, many  known cases of AIDS without HIV, something I had not 
been aware of.

Don't miss this one.

JBB





Celia Farber



On Wednesday, Jan 4, 2006, at 18:24 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten 
wrote:

I do not know whether something other than HIV is the cause of AIDS, 
and your ideas about HPV may be correct.

The main point, so far as I am concerned, is that the heated blood 
products did not cause AIDS or raise HIV in hemophiliacs who received 
it.   Heating destroyed whatever pathogen causes elevated HIV readings 
and AIDS.

If the infectious agent becomes resistant to heating, we are all in 
big trouble if we need an infusion.  However, there are artificial 
blood products now, and storage of one's own blood is an (expensive) 
option. . . .





On Wednesday, Jan 4, 2006, at 02:27 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:

This is true, but the conclusion is likely wrong.  Those that had 
high HIV
also probably had HPV, one of the viruses that CAN cause AIDS or 
benzene (or
a derivative) in the blood.  That resulted in a high HIV test for one 
of two
reasons. First if HIV does exist, it is a marker and increased due to 
the
crippled immune system so it is over the threshold value tested for 
when the
blood is diluted 100:1.  So testing for HIV is an effective test for a
crippled immune system, and whatever was crippling it was still in 
the blood.
Or second, it is known that the HIV test will test positive for lots 
of
things, including the HPV virus, so it could have been simply 
resonding to
the present HPV virus.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

Jim San,

I am not an MD, nor am I in the blood products business;  I can not
answer your question specifically.

Bottom line:  a group here called the Green Cross, headed by the 
late,
wicked Dr. Abe, knew perfectly well that the unheated blood products
were a risk.  They sold them because they did not want to lose money.

The persons who used the unheated products had high levels of HIV;
those who did not, did not.   Those with high HIV levels were the 
ones
who developed AIDS.  Most died.

Best I can do without doing research which you can do yourself.   It
was big news in the English newspapers as well.  Probably lots of
vetted papers online, at least abstracts.  Good luck.

JBB

On Tuesday, Jan 3, 2006, at 15:54 Asia/Tokyo, Jim Holmes wrote:

Hello Jonathan,

How long was the blood heated at what temp ranges?

How long after inoculation did symptoms appear?

Do you know anyone who can produce a paper on the isolation of and
culture
of the HIV viron?

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>AIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/

I can tell you this:  many Japanese hemophiliacs, including many who
have died from AIDS, were infected with HIV by using unheated blood
products imported from the USA.   At the time, heated products were
available, but unsold unheated products were imported and sold for
reasons of profit.   Those who used heated products were not 
infected
with HIV and did not develop AIDS.

This is well-documented and has been a topic in mainstream news in
Japan for many, many years.   There was even a lengthy trial of an
elderly MD who was clearly responsible for the disaster but was 
never
convicted;  he became senile and died first.

Bottom line:  an identifiable group of persons was infected with HIV
from unheated blood products; those who used heated products were 
not
infected.  Heating killed the infectious agent, which is almost
certainly HIV.

I have no reason to doubt the existence of HIV or the claim that it 
is
the primary cause of AIDS.

As for Dr. Gallo, I read recently that he himself is suffering from
cancer, alas.


On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 05:20 Asia/Tokyo, Jim Holmes wrote:

If anyone can find a paper demonstrating either the successful
isolation of
or culturing of the virus, please send to me the information on 
how to
get a
copy.  I know a PhD microbiologist who has been searching for such 
a
paper
for several years.  A friend of his directly asked Robert Gallo
(Received
credit for creating the first test for the condition) for the 
paper,
and
Gallo turned white, said nothing, and turned and walked rapidly 
away.


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