Found this in Ritchie's article, "The Development of the C Language":

   Thompson was faced with a hardware environment cramped and spartan
   even for the time: the DEC PDP-7 on which he started in 1968 was a
   machine with 8K 18-bit words of memory and no software useful to
   him. While wanting to use a higher-level language, he wrote the
   original Unix system in PDP-7 assembler. At the start, he did not
   even program on the PDP-7 itself, but instead used a set of macros
   for the GEMAP assembler on a GE-635 machine. A postprocessor
   generated a paper tape readable by the PDP-7.

   These tapes were carried from the GE machine to the PDP-7 for
   testing until a primitive Unix kernel, an editor, an assembler, a
   simple shell (command interpreter), and a few utilities (like the
   Unix rm, cat, cp commands) were completed. After this point, the
   operating system was self-supporting: programs could be written and
   tested without resort to paper tape, and development continued on
   the PDP-7 itself.

   Thompson's PDP-7 assembler outdid even DEC's in simplicity; it
   evaluated expressions and emitted the corresponding bits. There were
   no libraries, no loader or link editor: the entire source of a
   program was presented to the assembler, and the output file—with a
   fixed name—that emerged was directly executable. (This name, a.out,
   explains a bit of Unix etymology; it is the output of the assembler.
   Even after the system gained a linker and a means of specifying
   another name explicitly, it was retained as the default executable
   result of a compilation.)

So, they didn't use DEC's assembler, but they used GE's?

Interesting stuff.

Will
On 2/26/16 6:26 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
If you were used to building your own tools, you might not. Also if you are bootstrapping from something else (like a large timesharing system from another manufacturer). You might put your tools on the other system, until the new system could "self host."

We do the same things today.

Clem

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com <mailto:will.s...@gmail.com>> wrote:



    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Feb 26, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Nigel Williams
    <n...@retrocomputingtasmania.com
    <mailto:n...@retrocomputingtasmania.com>> wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Johnny Billquist
    <b...@softjar.se <mailto:b...@softjar.se>> wrote:
    >> On 2016-02-26 23:47, Eric Smith wrote:
    >>>> On Feb 25, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Gregg Levine
    <gregg.drw...@gmail.com <mailto:gregg.drw...@gmail.com>
    >>>> <mailto:gregg.drw...@gmail.com
    <mailto:gregg.drw...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Version Zero was hand coded on a PDP-7
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I know Gregg is right.  But .. Can you /imagine?/
    >> Not sure I understand this comment either. Are you suggesting
    that coding an
    >> OS is assembler is something exceptional or complicated, or
    unusual?
    >
    > I took "hand-coded" to mean Version Zero was (initially) done
    without
    > an assembler, they wrote down the instructions in machine code.
    >
    > Perhaps not unusual for the 1960s but laborious none-the-less.
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    I don't understand this. The PDP 7 had an assembler and debugger.
    Wouldn't they have used the assembler to generate the bootstrap
    system?
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