At 8:52 PM -0500 3/21/02, Bill Cole wrote:

>FWIW, I think it would be right and proper for Ian Gulliver of ORBZ 
>to spend a few weeks in the Battle Creek jail for this. There are 
>all sorts of other people   whose failings made this event possible, 
>but what ORBZ (and anyone else doing aggressive relay testing 
>without good cause) was doing was arguably criminal even before it 
>took down a government system.

I don't have a lot of sympathy anymore for ORBZ, Spamcop or others, 
after wrongfully being blacklisted at least twice in the last six 
months. They were quick to correct their records when I finally 
figured out why my clients weren't getting mail, but I shouldn't have 
had to put up with that. I've never had an open relay, and always 
passed ORBZ' intrusive tests (which I found offensive, too). Somehow 
I still got blacklisted. They were just too careless and didn't seem 
to care if they blocked (or their information was used to block) 
legitimate servers. I hate spam as much as anyone, but blocking 
legitimate mail is too high a price to pay.

Bob


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