At 11:40 AM +0100 4/23/02, Ron Hahn  imposed structure on a stream of 
electrons, yielding:
>On 4/23/02 2:52 AM, "Bill Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>...snip...
>>>  No, but you can just use one line instead:
>>>
>>>  127.0.0.2-127.0.0.255 ; DNSBL loopback
>>
>>
>>  Yes, but as noted, including all of relays.osirusoft.com can yield
>>  unacceptably large collateral damage.
>
>Bill,
>
>Perhaps you could expand on your definition of "collateral damage"?  I'm not
>sure what you are trying to say.

Using 127.0.0.4 responses from relays.osirusoft.com to reject mail 
means that you are very likely to reject a significant quantity of 
perfectly legitimate mail from non-spammers. that response code is 
used for the entries provided by SPEWS (www.spews.org) which lists 
addresses by the ARIN-registered range in many cases. It is certainly 
the case that barring typos at SPEWS the listed address space is in 
fact controlled by ISP's which do little or nothing about spammers 
using their networks, but sadly that description applies accurately 
to such minuscule providers as Sprint, Qwest, Verio, Exodus, and so 
forth. Large chunks of their networks are listed in SPEWS because one 
or two spammers have taken up residence on a few addresses surrounded 
by innocent bystanders. There are fine logical arguments for running 
a blacklist this way, but the fine logical arguments do not change 
the fact that the result is the rejection of legitimate mail, aka 
'collateral damage.'

>At the moment I don't appear to be losing any emails that I want, but I am
>noticing that the daily volumes are WAY down from my previous life with Web*
>mail..

It is always wise to keep an eye on what your server is rejecting. It 
is all logged.

>Also, I have quite a few rules < ... > = error in my ruleset.  Do these
>mails actually get rejected or do they go to the bit bucket (or do they get
>returned) ?

Routing to error means that the mail is rejected before it is 
actually received.
-- 
Bill Cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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