On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:37:23PM +0300, Kaj Sotala wrote:

> "Killing" is an interesting word, with several interpretations. In a

Perhaps we can agree on a permanently terminated system trajectory.
You can make sure it never gets resumed by erasing the information
about the original process. Save of lunatic fringe (at the big
crunch all the lightcones must come together) this means when you
die and are not cryonically suspended, you won't ever get resumed.

> sense, it's true that you need to "kill" the original - the original
> certainly isn't exactly the same after being uploaded, in the same

With destructive scan, there is no original. It takes reassembly
of nanosalami slices of a vitrified biological system.

> sense that going to school will kill the self that never went to
> school.

In terms of snapshots and resumes the original state is exactly
the same.
 
> That's not what most people mean when they say you need to kill the
> original, though. Which leaves me a bit confused. Why keep getting

This thread is very, very, very old. To me personally it's more
than 25 years old; no doubt, people have been debating this
in the 19th or even 18th century.

> stuck on the viewpoint where the only method of uploading is making a
> copy and then destroying the original, when the prospect of gradually
> turning your neurons into artificial ones has already been brought up

It's a great prospect. Unfortunately, I don't see how we currently 
living can profit from systems as described in http://nanomedicine.com/

If you're a chunk of cryogenic glass in the dewar the destructive
scan is easiest.

> on the list? In a way, sure, it's still an original dying - but no
> more than normally living a couple of decades is an original dying,
> which most people don't count as dying. So why call it death now?

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