Dear Sir or Madam,
   
  The human brain knows that it does not know.  This very fact prompts it to 
act to know, producing the innovation which has brought us to this moment in 
time.  This is because it derives all of its vital energy from a source beyond 
itself. . .above it and infinitely more subtle than it.  It cannot "tap into" 
that source by its own efforts because the source is non-material and is an 
energy which cannot be measured by any means.  Ironically, the source only 
supplies raw energy. . .the brain may do with it what it likes (free will, 
constructive or destructive).
   
  The brain is not alive, nor is it conscious.
   
  It borrows all of its vital energy from the source mentioned above.  That 
source is the reservoir of consciousness, beyond physics (of any type) and 
beyond metaphysics.  Again, it cannot be measured by any material instrument.
   
  Man cannot produce this original, vital energy.  Consciousness is not of man. 
. .it is used by man (and woman) and every lifeform known.  It is immortal, 
ubiquitous and unknown.
   
  The exoteric must confront the esoteric, but it will always be defeated 
because of former is an effect and the latter is the cause.
   
  Sincerely,
   
  Albert
   
   
  

candice schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  
FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Hi Richard,
 
I'm beginning to feel sorry for you, do you not tire of endless challenges ?
 
Back to the AI debate then....still parallel to what you think....
 
In all of my previous posts, most of them anyhow I have mentioned 
consciousness, today I found myself reading some of John Searle's theories, he 
poses exactly the same type of question...The reason computers can't do 
semantics is because semantics is about meaning; meaning derives from original 
intentionality, and original intentionality derives from feelings - qualia - 
and computers don't have any qualia.  How does consciousness get added to the 
AI picture Richard ?
 
At the same time I find myself moving back to Charles Darwin again and his 
study of the human smile...how come tribes in the Amazon who have had no 
outside contact to the world (back then anyhow) still smile when they are happy 
when they have never encountered the human world, which part of our genetic 
make up equals a smile...then back again to AI...as Searle said...it's got 
something to do with biological qualities of the brain.  We are organic, we 
cannot be replicated no matter how much each one of us thinks of the human 
brain as a machine. 
 
Anyhow again another thought idea.
 
Candice
 
 

  
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