On 10/27/07, Stefan Pernar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Ben. > > As foundation of my AI friendliness theory I tried to figure out why we > believe what good or bad is and came to the conclusion that humans, animals > and even plants have evolved to perceive as good what is encoded into their > genome/memome having been retained in the course of chance mutation and non > chance retention in the process of natural selection.
This is certainly true! However, as we enter the transhuman era, won't this become less and less relevant except as an initial condition? Already natural selection has arguably stopped working on humans, due to the prevalence of birth control and the rise of culture. ( We may argue that it still works on memes, sure, but that's another story.) Soon we will be advancing not through evolution but through self-modification. Meaning that the distinction btw the genome, the memome and the mind will become all but obsolete... -- Ben G Individuals prefer certain food sources over others - in the case of humans > that could be sweats or cheeseburgers with fries versus broccoli and spinach > - because recognizing high energy non toxic food sources has been encoded > into their genes as tasting 'good'. Not because of a detached notion of > goodness but because the consumption of similar food sources has helped our > ancestors pass on their genes. The individual is thus rewarded with joy for > moving closer to its in its genes and memes encoded optimal fitness state. > > Similarly cutting ones finger causes suffering because the level of pain > experienced is equivalent with the resulting decreased likelihood of not > being able to further contribute to the survival of ones genes. This is true > for our ancestors that roamed the savanna just as well without them having a > concept of germs for example. Cutting ones finger - especially in a cavemen > type setting and long before that when our pain levels evolved without soap, > band aids etc - could easily result in an infection, blood poisoning, > gangrene or what have you. > > Just a quick glimpse at my theory. > > Kind regards, > > Stefan > > On 10/27/07, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > To move the chat in a different direction, here is Stephan Pernar's > > articulates self-improving AGI supergoal, drawn from his paper > > "Benevolence-- > > A Materialist Philosophy of Goodness", which is linked to from > > http://www.jame5.com/ > > > > **** > > Definitions: > > Suffering = negative subjective experience equivalent to the subjective > > departure > > from an individual's model of optimal fitness state as encoded in its > > genome/memome > > Growth = absolute increase in individual's fitness > > Joy = positive subjective experience equivalent to the subjective > > contribution to > > moving closer towards an individual's model of optimal fitness state as > > encoded in its > > genome/memome > > SIAGI super goal: "Minimize all involuntary human suffering, direct all > > unavoidable suffering towards growth, and reward all voluntary suffering > > contributing > > to an individual's growth with an equal or greater amount of joy." > > > > **** > > > > -- Ben G > > ------------------------------ > > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > > > > > -- > Stefan Pernar > 3-E-101 Silver Maple Garden > #6 Cai Hong Road, Da Shan Zi > Chao Yang District > 100015 Beijing > P.R. CHINA > Mobil: +86 1391 009 1931 > Skype: Stefan.Pernar > ------------------------------ > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=58343997-19515f
