Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- "John G. Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In a sim world there are many variables that can overcome other motivators
so a change in the rate of gene proliferation would be difficult to predict.
The agents that correctly believe that it is a simulation could say OK this
is all fake, I'm going for pure pleasure with total disregard for anything
else. But still too many variables to predict. In humanity there have been
times in the past where societies have given credence to simulation through
religious beliefs and weighted more heavily on a disregard for other groups
existence. A society would say that this is all fake, we all gotta die
sometime anyway so we are going to take as much as we can from other tribes
and decimate them for sport. Not saying this was always the reason for
intertribal warfare but sometimes it was.

The reason we have war is because the warlike tribes annihilated the peaceful
ones.  Evolution favors a brain structure where young males are predisposed to
group loyalty (gangs or armies), and take an interest in competition and
weapons technology (e.g. the difference in the types of video games played by
boys and girls).  It has nothing to do with belief in simulation.  Cultures
that believed the world was simulated probably killed themselves, not others. That is why we believe the world is real.
Simulation is a new word. In this context, let's use an old word. Maya. Have the Buddhist countries and societies gone away? And let's use an old word for "reality". Heaven. Have the Christian countries and societies gone away?

Perhaps you need to rethink your suppositions.

But the problem is in the question of what really is a simulation? For the
agents constrained, it doesn't matter they still have to live in it - feel
pain, fight for food, get along with other agents... Moving an agent from
one simulation to the next though, that gives it some sort of extra
properties...

It is unlikely that any knowledge you now have would be useful in another
simulation.  Knowledge is only useful if it helps propagate your DNA.


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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