Hi, Just a contextualizing note: this is the Singularity list not the AGI list so the scope of appropriate discussion is not so restricted.
In my view, whacky models of the universe are at least moderately relevant to Singularity. After the Singularity, we are almost sure to discover that our current model of the universe is in many ways wrong ... it seems interesting to me to speculate about what a broader, richer, deeper model might look like -- Ben Goertzel (list owner, plus the guy who started this thread ;-) On Feb 2, 2008 3:54 AM, Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WTF does this have to do with AGI or Singularity? I hope the AGI > gets here soon. We Stupid Monkeys get damn tiresome. > > - samantha > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:06 AM, gifting wrote: > > > > > On 29 Jan 2008, at 14:13, Vladimir Nesov wrote: > > > >> On Jan 29, 2008 11:49 AM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> OK, but why can't they all be dumped in a single 'normal' > >>>> multiverse? > >>>> If traveling between them is accommodated by 'decisions', there > >>>> is a > >>>> finite number of them for any given time, so it shouldn't pose > >>>> structural problems. > >>> > >>> The whacko, speculative SF hypothesis is that lateral movement btw > >>> Yverses is conducted according to "ordinary" laws of physics, > >>> whereas > >>> vertical movement btw Yverses is conducted via extraphysical psychic > >>> actions ;-)' > >>> > >> > >> What differentiates "psychic" actions from non-psychic so that they > >> can't be considered "ordinary"? If I can do both, why aren't they > >> both > >> equally ordinary to me (and everyone else)?.. > > > > Is a psychic action telepathy, for example? If I am a schizophrenic > > and hear voices, is this a psychic experience? > > What is a psychic action FOR YOU, or in your set of definitions? > > Do you propose that you are able of psychic actions within a set > > frame of definitions or do you experience psychic actions and > > redefine your environment because > > of this? > > Or is it all in the mind? > > Isn't it only ordinary, if experienced repetitively ..... > > Gudrun > >> > >> -- Vladimir Nesov > >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> ----- > >> This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > >> To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > >> http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&-3ffb4f > >> > > > > ----- > > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms." -- Henry Miller ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=92990369-76f3f1
